Modification of a dozen sleeping for 4

[mogul397]

So RG posted the method sleep for 4.  Before I show my idea, I am thinking
that there are trends and ebbs and flows. Similar to the idea of waiting for
3 uniques, waiting for a dozen to sleep 4 spins has it's own implications.

So a very rough idea is.  Wait to see a dozen sleep. Then bet that dozen 2 times.
Yes dozen sleep. But less times that you imagine.

It is a lot easier to make and manage money with a 2-1 payoff. With a gentle
progression. I've played with this a bit and it does have merit.

Give it a 5 min look and see what it looks like.

[mogul397]

But maybe not. Maybe it's not even worth people spending 5 min to look at.

If my name was Ignatius, then people would flood in to look at charts for
some unplayable method that looks identical to his others.

I actually went to the casino last night and tested this....

I'm not just an author. I'm a player.

[ignatus]

If my name was Ignatius, then people would flood in to look at charts for
some unplayable method that looks identical to his others.

Well, im trying. Still haven't found the grail im looking for,? We learn from our mistakes, don't we? That's the only way. What i know, betting on sleepers, cold numbers is no good idea, but that's basic, but we still want to try the impossible, it could work sometimes, yes, but most of the time it wont

[mogul397]

Well, im trying. Still haven't found the grail im looking for,? We learn from our mistakes, don't we? That's the only way. What i know, betting on sleepers, cold numbers is no good idea, but that's basic, but we still want to try the impossible, it could work sometimes, yes, but most of the time it wont

Thanks ignatus. My reference to you is not negative. Just using you as a tool..

Apparently I am chopped liver and any idea that I have doesn't merit a look.

As for the sleeper idea I totally agree with you.  But "turn the pocket inside out" in the
thinking. Yes, the initial idea is spoken of "sleeper".  But I am not chasing a sleeper.
I am just using it for the initial setup. In a normal choppy situation events will repeat.
So pick a setup for it where 2 of the 3 dozens came in, and then try for the hit
after 4-5 for a couple spins. Normal action.

If you miss, then wait for the next setup, and play. A couple times. Normal occurance
is alphabet soup.

Maybe you could program it. I would use a mild progression.  Worked for me 2 nights ago.

[DoctorSudoku]

Thanks ignatus. My reference to you is not negative. Just using you as a tool..

Apparently I am chopped liver and any idea that I have doesn't merit a look.

As for the sleeper idea I totally agree with you.  But "turn the pocket inside out" in the
thinking. Yes, the initial idea is spoken of "sleeper".  But I am not chasing a sleeper.
I am just using it for the initial setup. In a normal choppy situation events will repeat.
So pick a setup for it where 2 of the 3 dozens came in, and then try for the hit
after 4-5 for a couple spins. Normal action.

If you miss, then wait for the next setup, and play. A couple times. Normal occurance
is alphabet soup.

Maybe you could program it. I would use a mild progression.  Worked for me 2 nights ago.

Mogul,
When you say "wait for 2 of the 3 dozens" to come in and then "go for the hit," are you talking of betting on the dozen that has not appeared ?

Just asking to be sure, because for sleeping dozen strategies, it is better to wait for 9-10 misses, and even then it is not a winning strategy.

[bleep24]

I will definitely be giving this a wide berth.

[mogul397]

Mogul,
When you say "wait for 2 of the 3 dozens" to come in and then "go for the hit," are you talking of betting on the dozen that has not appeared ?

Just asking to be sure, because for sleeping dozen strategies, it is better to wait for 9-10 misses, and even then it is not a winning strategy.

Yes.  Instead of waiting the 4 spins for the "nap" and playing for the nap to continue.

And yes, you may be right that waiting longer is better. Like 5.  But when you do you
see how many repeats came after 3 or something.

It's like combining the "ying and yang". The best thing is you're getting 2-1 payoffs, and
that is VERY attractive to me. Cutting of the usual thing of chasing sleepers and acknowledging
the "nap". But not chasing it.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

This will bite yer bum, and in a very big way.

Look at past Dublinbet spin history posted on here to see how.      Waiting 3,4,5 or whatever is a road that you should not be on, and you above most people should know that with the playing/recording experience that you have.  Just trying to save you a few bucks.  (to lose on some other mad cap method!!!)

Brian

[mogul397]

Leave my bum alone.  Here's my saying to turn your phrase.

EVERYBODY wants MY ASS!!!!!!!!!
Some want to hug it and hold it.
All the rest want to KICK THE SHIT OUT OF IT!!!!!
But EVERYONE wants it........

Anyway, I hear what you are saying. But all I am suggesting is a normal "nap"
as I call it. I an not for chasing it. Most people chase it, like chasing a red/black
in a martingale. I personally saw two attractive women do this once at
Foxwoods. Doubling up. Red was coming in and black just would not show.
Forget how far they chased it, but I was certainly riding their experience hoping
for the black.

I am suggesting that dozens sleep, nap, even those words are misleading. If you
wanted to take it to the opposite extreme, you could bet, every time you saw two
different dozen and bet for the 3rd. Like if you were watching for uniques. That's a little
tight.

On the other hand if you are totally right, RG found a gold mine playing the two last
after sleeping 4. I just felt that getting 2-1 gave you a little more fighting power.

Does that make any different sense? I think RG's approach is doable too. In the true
fashion of my negative luck the last time while I was tracking this single dozen idea,
I was watching longer sleeping going on that would have made me money. Via RG's
Sleeper approach.

[Thunder Pants]

Does sound quite workable. The 2:1 return means you can keep it at a gentle progression or even could work just flatbetting if its just the 2 max bet on each trigger. Worst case is a slow loss of units unless you stray from the strategy & tries to recover by going deeper in with larger units or extend the progression steps. Believing in the trigger works or not really shouldnt matter as in both cases its probably a higher concern trying to stay clear of a incoming "loosing streak"-pattern by setting a couple of rules if such a thing is possible, worst case at least gives a bit of variation in gameplay. Like "if the same number appears in the last 4 then wait untill after a 5th spin to bet", "if zero happens then wait for a clear 4 spins must have missed a dozen" etc.