Overcoming variance with Deficit Recovery

[Madi]

@ denzie

I have tried that as well. What happen when start betting after two hit. In the next cycle 2 or 3 number goes up and rest of them down. New numbers coming up with two hits . Say if u play 12 double hit number in next cycle same things happen like first cycle. U also have to hit 12 times if u play 12 number.why i put money on doublehit number on second cycle? They havent landed on second cycle. All double hit number might gone down. And thats happen always . Most of those doublehit goes down thats why we r loser. And no idea of that recovery .

[falkor2k15]

OK Guys, I figured out that it's going to be tough to play only after virtual wins in terms of recovering CL2 since we only expect CL2 to come 1 cluster at a time, so it might only recover 1 cluster at a time. Ideally we need something that recovers in a 2+ cluster at a time, but I come up with a new idea - still using regular dozen cycles - where we can play both dispersion and concentration together and hopefully recover in profit.

Double Dozen = 66%
Single Dozen = 33%

CL1 = 33%
CL2 + CL3 = 66%

What is the difference? Well, besides CL2+3 needing more than 1 spin, cycles and their constants can take on multiple ratios/expectations at once! So we need to track 3 sets of deficits:
*CL1 CL2 CL3
*Order 1 Order 2 Order 3
*CL1o1, CL2o1, CL2o2, CL3o1, CL3o2, CL3o3

Retrack when Order 1 > (Order 2 and Order 3) AND CL2 > (CL1 and CL3)

Now we're in business!!!   

[Madi]

The main issue is the variance where we are losing. I can bring some suggestion if u guys like. We can keep this TG's catch the repeter system but not betting every time. We can use winkles GUT checkpoint and trot analysis and bet where is more probable for hit. Say GuT saying in 25 th spin 3-5 number will be more than one hit. So from 25-37 we got more 7 double or more hit. We might apply a light progression in that 12 spin. But thats just a proposal . Didnt test anything

[Madi]

@ falkor

Bring it in the field and tell us your rules. Let us play with it and see

[RouletteGhost]

there are no system rules to madness

he can spend a longtime writing long posts but when requested to lay it out, he cannot do it

[Madi]

 

[falkor2k15]

6 Options works best I found... even with flat-betting!

CL1 Order 1, CL2 Order 2, CL2 Order 2, CL3 Order 1, CL3 Order 2, CL3 Order 3

Maths Expectation

CL1o1	109897	49%
CL2o1	48570	22%
CL2o2	48759	22%
CL3o1	5372	2%
CL3o2	5322	2%
CL3o3	5374	2%
	223294

Full recovery is when 1 > (23) > (456)



000000
Bet option 123
            
100000
Bet option 23
            
100010
Bet option 123
            
101010
Bet option 123
            
102010
Bet option 12
            
202010
Bet option 12
            
212010
Bet option 12
            
212110
Bet option 12
            
312110
Bet option 2

322110
Full recovery!

[mogul397]

What part isn't clear? 

Hysterical question. "What don't you understand".

We don't understand enough to actually ask a question.

[mogul397]

I wanted to share some stats regarding CL2 recovery:

CL2 Recovered
Cycle 1	44%
Cycle 2	20%
Cycle 3	42%
Cycle 4	33%
Cycle 5	42%
Cycle 6	46%
Cycle 7	48%
Cycle 8	47%
Cycle 9	51%
Cycle 10	57%

010	38110	44%	110	25391		111	16982		121	14940	17%	221	12466		231	10978	13%
100	28659		020	16930	20%	120	16901	20%	220	11385		131	10923	13%	321	8455
001	19100		011	16815		210	12806		211	11365		122	8517		222	8379
	85869		101	12860		021	11303	13%	130	9960	12%	230	8448	10%	132	7457	9%
			200	9574		030	7510	9%	112	7629		320	6387		141	7296	8%
			002	4299		201	6391		031	6596		311	6361		240	5647	7%
				85869		012	5615		310	5664		212	6229		330	5635
						102	4334		022	5047		140	5575	6%	312	4172
						300	3076		040	3428	4%	032	3771	4%	123	3859
						003	951		301	2844		041	3680	4%	411	3252
							85869		202	2743		113	2860		420	3182
									013	1732		410	2328		150	2998	3%
									103	1310		023	1825	2%	213	2729
									400	1051		050	1538	2%	042	2526	3%
									004	175		302	1507		051	1978	2%
										85869		401	1224		033	1623
												203	1062		114	906
												014	462		510	904
												500	331		402	794
												104	329		060	663	1%
												005	46		303	662
													85869		024	626
															501	460
															204	364
															015	123
															600	111
															105	82
															006	8
		44%			20%			42%			33%			42%		85869	46%
Event 1			Event 2			Event 3			Event 4			Event 5			Event 6

You answer using your own language. Not spoken language. Mathematical.

What is CL2? Columb 2?  What is recovery?  From where?

You explain using a set of your own words and terms. Notice how I explained this
in complete sentences where I say what I don't understand and what I am
referring to?

[falkor2k15]

I found edge tonight using a more simpler method, so I am going to knock this one on the head. Deficit Recovery isn't really needed as far as I can tell.... more agro than it's worth.

[huskerdu]

Sorry to say that, but, after so many years reading thousands of posts on this forum and working on hundreds of systems, it's the first time I haven't understand a single word!! Am I missing something?

[RouletteGhost]

Join the club

Just walk away slowly

Don't turn back

[falkor2k15]

The idea originated with this post:
"2. Second is the constant explained by Drazen and the ratios of lengths. If you have 1000 spins, are you able to say with certainity that Red will be more or Black will be more? Are you able to say that number 36 will be more than any other number? No. But can you say that the number of repeating cycles of dozens will be more than number of different cycles of dozens. Yes, you can with absolute certainity. Leave aside winning every session for a moment. But lets say you keep a count of red and black. When red goes to 10, can you keep on betting black to balance that count, no. Keep a count of repeating cycles and different cycles. When there are 10 different cycles, can you use this count to get back the same cycles up? May be!"
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15938.315 (page 22)

In the end I don't think I actually found a solution and suspected that Priyanka posted it out of deception. So you can see why I doubted Priyanka for so long - many things did not add up and still do not add up - like the above. However, this is some very specialized area that PA's topic deals with quite well, and Priyanka's main methods can at least lead to edge in a more simpler ways. I think overcoming variances requires some super intelligence that I just do not possess.

[Turner]

I haven't understand a single word!! Am I missing something?

Nope