Flat Earth theory questions

[Turner]

Rich...works equally well with "I'm an advantage player"

[RouletteGhost]

That was in my mind as I posted it

[Turner]

That was in my mind as I posted it

Great minds think alike
I just liken the biased wheel AP to the gold prospecter panning for gold in "Klondike Petes Gold River" ($30/hour) somewhere in Sacramento Valley 2017 

[TurboGenius]

@Steve and others - it's a good idea to keep an open mind.
And to think about things rationally and not just make a decision based on someone's "facts"
that aren't even true.

I used a good example today at the office - and this probably sums up my opinion on the topic as well.

I asked everyone - if I took off in a plane from Philadelphia and flew towards California - what direction am I heading ? N, S, E, W ? Everyone said West.
Every single person said that it was west and every single person was wrong, it's East.
The problem here is that we think of everything from our own perspective and never think twice about how things work - how we define things due to how we've seen it or how we've learned so-called "facts" over the years.
So I could ask it here as well - everyone here will say West. It's just human nature.
When you realize that you're actually going East, that's when the brain can at least see things for what they are and not what you always think was right.. Simple as that.

[Steve]

Many things are perspective. But not when it comes to math. Perspective is irrelevant.

[falkor2k15]

I think is was Pri or supporter who said "maths is golden" - the reason Pri's methods can beat the casino is precisely because of maths - and that the proof against winning over the house is based on an assumption.

[TurboGenius]

Many things are perspective. But not when it comes to math. Perspective is irrelevant.

We created math.

If you took a species on earth that could only see black and white - eventually they would define everything around them and have scientific explanations as to why this is black, this is white - math to back it all up.
The problem is - they only see black and white and have no idea that there is something else.
It's like the color Orange to us. Orange doesn't exist yet we sure see it - it's a color. It's not real though.
How strange does that sound ? Strange. But it's fact.
Our own perspective also was at fault for creating Gods. In the old days there were Gods for everything.
Crops, weather, sun, rain, you name it. Now as science has explained many things - Gods vanish and what we think is truth takes over. Soon there won't even be a need for the last "God" remaining.
But I digress - we created math to explain things. It's great. But it explains what we already know.
Now we see things that "defy" math and science is puzzled by this. So arrogant we are to think that when we find something that doesn't follow "the rules we created" - there must be something wrong. This has been happening in the study of space lately. Findings that defy everything that we know to be true.
As it turns out - we know nothing, we just reverse engineer answers to questions - like we always have.

[RouletteGhost]

There's parts of the universe where laws of physics as we know it don't work

Also what about 5th 6th 7th dimensions. There's 12. What works there?

There are parts of this universe where our math would fall apart

[Steve]

If anything goes against physics, it doesn't mean physics is wrong. It means our understanding is wrong.

And I'm not saying maths is nothing. Im saying the theories and things being said are wrong. Proper understanding of the maths make it clear.

The whole universe is physics and math. They are expressions of the same thing.

Rg how do you know there are 12 dimensions?

[Steve]

Turbo we didn't create math any more than we created the universe

[mogul397]

The real issue here isn't the "laws of physics" vs chance.

Why is it that, in general, in the world of chaos, that it is so easy
to lose great amounts quick? It doesn't have to do with the odds or
physics. It has to do with the player.

I would venture to say that people would probably lose as much if
roulette had a 5% advantage to the player.  The only reason they
wouldn't would be that you could play flat and win. But if players
played their normal way, they would still lose. And a lot more than 5%.
And a lot quicker than the odds would suggest.

[RouletteGhost]

question

if all bodies in our solar system are flat discs, how thick is the sun?

it packs a lot of power.....

[RouletteGhost]

If anything goes against physics, it doesn't mean physics is wrong. It means our understanding is wrong.

And I'm not saying maths is nothing. Im saying the theories and things being said are wrong. Proper understanding of the maths make it clear.

The whole universe is physics and math. They are expressions of the same thing.

Rg how do you know there are 12 dimensions?

at least 12

scientists know this now

we live in 3 dimensional reality

whats in 4 through 12?

[RouletteGhost]

space travel cannot be done conventionally

galaxies are too far apart

universe is too big

to get to another star in OUR OWN GALAXY can take 40 years at the speed of light

that is just amazing

another galaxy? hundreds of years of travel at speed of light maybe more

loop holes, worm holes, must be used

[DoctorSudoku]

to get to another star in OUR OWN GALAXY can take 40 years at the speed of light

I do NOT care what science fiction fans or even scientists say what technology we might have in the future -- I care about what space travel technology we have today in discussing this topic.

The nearest star (other than the sun) to us is Proxima Centauri -- one of the three stars that make up the Alpha Centauri system. Proxima Centauri is about 4.2 light years away. The other two stars of that system, Alpha Centauri A and B, are approximately 4.38 light years away.

One of the fastest space crafts that we  currently  have is the New Horizons probe that reached Pluto a couple of years ago. It travelled at around 52000 miles per hour (or 84000 kilometers per hour).

Even travelling at that enormous speed (that our current technology has actually attained), New Horizons would take nearly 55,000 years to reach Proxima Centauri.