Those dam EC`s again.

[bleep24]

Mogul posted somewhere (over the rainbow) an idea that after a chain of 4 Red we bet the  following 4 spins to get another Red (Applies equally to Black)   Stop at a winner.
This is not actually a bad idea (will also apply to other EC`s)

Problem is progression.  Marty is a bit risky but a low level progression might/could/will/probably/should work.

I have been keeping an eye on this whilst playing other systems and it seems to perform. (my other eye is in the draw)

Anyone want to run a few zillion past `live` spins to see how it would have performed?

Has Mogul had a brain storm?

Brian

[mogul397]

Couple of things.......

1) You KNOW it, big boy.  All my ideas are good ones.
2)  As far as the rainbow is concerned it is also "way up high".  "How high is up",
is another question.
3) As far as the eye thing it's the "drawer".
4) My computer can only count to a trillion. (unless I use my fingers an toes).
5) YES, as stated in #1, ALL my ideas are good ones. And as I told my family
over the weekend, I aspire to be on the "most wanted list", if I'm not already on it.
I probably am. Because EVERYONE wants my ass. Some want to hug it and hold it.
Everyone else wants to kick the shit out of it. But EVERYONE wants it!!!!!

(Which one are you? )

On a serious note, I am not "feeling" this whole thing about bet selection based on
one series matching or not matching the last one. One reason is hit rate. The other
is the method squelching wins and letting losses go.

I think that the 4 spin method is not bad. It certainly has the martingale loss thing built
in and expected. For that reason I feel like betting 3 (1,2,4) might be a little easier on
the nerves. Perhaps do something with betting "levels", like the guetting progression
as far as unit size. And only going up in units for a short time. Like a couple of bets,
to recoup a little of the previous loss, and then go back down to the original level.
I think you should do fairly well with just a 1,2,4.

I'm getting tired of looking at and testing methods that seem to be able to oscillate
between strings of winners and losers. Unless we follow the trend and are able to
let the wins run, and not sit and wait.

"Storm" is a kind word to describe the noise in my head.

[mogul397]

I think, as far as the ass thing, that everyone should vote with their finger.
(Don't get creepy)......

Just go to the left and give me likes.  Get that #11 likes going up!!!!!

VOTE TODAY!!!!!!!!! (I'm on the MOST WANTED, list....)  Like Al Franken.....

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

I dangled the bait and you took it, hook, line and sinker.   

As long as it is not the FBI or CIA after you I would not worry too much.

BTW  It is draw in the real, proper world.

There is a kids TV cartoon programme in UK called Trumpton (a village) with do-lally (look it up)  people running around.  Sounds to me like there is a Trumpton in USA.

Anyway, I still think that it is a good idea (have back checked) and it works most of the time.  Losers were often when a Zero showed its ugly head.(You have the added advantage of having 0 and 00.  Lucky you!

So it is down to progression (Levels/Guetting possibles)

Keep in touch.  Brian

[mogul397]

My rating is STILL at 11....

Probably good reason. Literally 3 major things went wrong
today and it's not even noon.  I don't deserve it.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

Is that rating out of 100?          Only asking.

If 3 things went then it was actually 4:  you should not have got out of bed.

If at first you don`t succeed, give up.

Brian

[mogul397]

Hi Mogul,

Is that rating out of 100?          Only asking.

If 3 things went then it was actually 4:  you should not have got out of bed.

If at first you don`t succeed, give up.

Brian

Don't know. It's the forum rating on the left. Don't know how
high it goes.  Like "how high is up".

My father was a conservative. He believed that NOTHING should
be tried for the first time........ I go far beyond that, to insanity.
Same thing, over and over, expecting a different result.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,
Ah, quote from from Albert Einstein:  Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

On a different note, I have been waiting for any EC 4 same chain and then betting up to next 4 spins to get a match.  It has worked surprising well.  Only got out of a 4 without a win once but no problemo as I was using +1/-1 and just carried on to next trigger and on till recovered.   Not too many opportunities but if you combine NLE 3 same to become 4 then follow on with this should be onto a winner.  (Famous last words. Not said by AE) though he did say that there was no way to win at roulette unless you owned the casino.

Cheers,     Brian

[mogul397]

How are you using +/-1 with the 2nd 4?

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

Not sure what you mean.  +1/1 is not ideal for this as you will probably not get many chains of WWWWWW with it.  Just used it at the time.Could not think of any other quickly. 

Perhaps just a 3 step Marty might be ok.    -7 units on a total loss. 

I have not played enough sessions with this to get a handle on it yet, but I have noticed that you get a lot of wins on 1st or 2nd step of betting series so will help.   

Cheers,     Brian

[mogul397]

First of all it didn't occur to me the fact that by definition you are
finding yourself at the door of the series of 4 setup, until you mentioned
it yesterday. So the obvious question, "what can I do with this cause
I'm hear already".

So you are betting for 4 in a row. Then you are betting for continuation?
Cause my variation so to speak was to do that instead of looking for
the change in the next 4.  Is that right?

So you begin, after 4 red, on red and begin a separate +/-1 betting series
on the next 4?  If so how/when does that stop? If you bet 1,2,3,4 and win on
the 4, what do you do next time? Are you betting right thorough all 4 spins,
stopping on a win,  or what? That is my question.

I'm totally blown out of the water on what I want to bet anymore.

[mogul397]

Your +/- thing indicates some "continuation" of play.
The after 4 in a row trigger is a hit and run strategy.

Not to mention that +/- is hard to type........ I have to use
all 13 fingers.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

Yes bet 4 times then wait for next trigger.  Been playing today and it would have lost a 4 step Marty twice so Marty is not a viable option.  It did win quite a few times but not enough to counteract Marty losses.

Brian

[mogul397]

I find it interesting that it has value on that plane.

If you are just playing a D'alenbert on 4 spins, then you
could pick any 4. What advantage does it create?

[mogul397]

How many wins would you have had to offset the two losses
of 15???

Would a parlay be better?