phoenix system

[albertojonas]

wish you the best of luck friend. ;-)

[GLC]

To anyone else who's interested.

Another session

51 spins
+20
a couple of 11 unit losses
went to 3,6,12&12 to recover
whenever I lose to zero, I take the loss and replay that bet unless it's a bet on the 2 dozens.
then I go into recover mode.

So far I have never lost 2 sessions in a row and I have always had 2  or more wins between losses.

with that in mind, I think it would be pretty safe to bet 6,12,24&24 after an 11 unit loss.

If you hit the 6 unit bet on a dozen, you have recovered all 11 lost units +1.

If you lose the 6 units you are down 17 units and a hit on the 12 units on a color makes you only down 5.  A loss on the 12 units on a color makes you down 29 and a hit on the 24 units on 2 dozens puts you back at -5.

Play 6,12,24&24 again because 1 more hit and you are up and can restart.

Yes, occassionally you will probably have a loss at the 6,12,24&24 level, but I think that you will be way ahead with a little luck.

As with all these systems, test, test, test, and be convinced in your own mind before betting hard earned cash.

Remember, no matter how well a system tests, this is still gambling and anything can happen.

Good Luck,

George

[GLC]

Another won session.

+21 units

30 spins

1 ea 11 unit loss

recovered with 2 wins at 6,12,24&24.

Bet selection.  For the 1 unit bet, bet on the 2nd oldest dozen.

If lose, bet 2 units on the penultimate color even if the last 2 spins are the same color.

If lose, bet 4 units each on the last 2 dozens to hit.

Anytime you win, go back to betting 1 unit on the 2nd oldest dozen. ( If a dozen has repeated for 1 or 2 times, this 2nd oldest dozen could be as far as 3 or 4 spins back.

Other than possibly luck, the reason I think this is working is that there is a lot of randomness involved in the bet selections.

Also, the odds of winning each bet increases as we progress through the 3 bet sequence.

The 1st bet has a 12 in 37 chance of winning.
The 2Nd bet has an 18 in 37 chance of winning.
The 3rd bet has a 24 in 37 chance of winning.

I suppose if we wanted we could go to 5 Dbl Streets for a 30 in 37 chance of winning.

Cheers,

George

[GLC]

Just played a quick session using a 4th stage of 12 units on each of 5 dbl streets.  Omit the last Dbl street to hit and bet on the other 5.

win +20
Spins about 30
3 each 11 unit losses
recovered all 3 times with the 12 units on 5 dbl st bet

George

[GLC]

2 more sessions.

+21 & +30

I think I like this method:

Bet 1 on the second to last dozen to spin.

If lose, 2 units on the penultimate color.

If lose, 4 units each on the last 2 doz.

If lose, 12 units on 5 dbl sts.  Leave open the last dbl st to hit.

In order to lose, you have to be so unlucky as to pick the exact time out of 10-20 spins when a dbl street is going to repeat.

It will happen, but so far I've been lucky enough to dodge the bullit.

If I lose, I don't increase my bets.  I just take the 71 unit loss and keep on truckin'.

So far I am up +318 units with no losses.

Is anyone else trying this or is it a little too risky?

George

PS.  Thanks Alberto for starting this topic.

[albertojonas]

very welcome,

the merit is all yours, as you made your own tweaks

keep it real!

[GLC]

Newest session:

B4     No bet
0       No bet
R21   1 unit on 1st dozen  -1
B6     2 units on Black        +1  restart    +1
B20   1 unit on 2nd doz     +2  restart    +3
R23   1 unit on 1 doz         -1
B6     2 units on B              +1  restart     +4
R23   1 unit on 2 doz         +2  restart     +6
R1     1 u on 1 doz             +2  restart     +8
R12    1 u on 2 doz             -1
R3      2 u on Red                +1  restart     +9
B15   1 u on 1 doz             -1
R1      2 u on Red                +1  restart     +10
R3      1 u on 2 doz             -1
R36    2 u on Red                +1  restart     +11
R5      1 u on 1 doz             +2  restart     +13
R16    1 u on 3 doz             -1
B22   2 u on Red                -3
B33   4 u on doz 1&2       -11
B22   12 u on D.S. 1-5       +1  restart      +14
B28   1 u on 3 doz             +2  restart      +16
B24   1 u on 2 doz             +2  restart      +18
R27    1 u on 3 doz             +2  restart      +20
R3      1 u on 2 doz             -1
B8     2 u on Red                -3
R34    4 u on doz 1&3         +1  restart      +21

This was a very easy session.  The easiest yet.
Thought I would show you exactly how I paly.

George

[Carsch]

Interesting. I'll be testing this tomorrow and report my results.

[GLC]

Hey guys,

Sorry about my last post.

I tried to use a "u" for an abreviated unit and the system interpreted it as 'you'.

So, anywhere you see a 'you' in the chart, it represents the word unit(s).

Cheers.

One more session.  a very hard fought session.  Ist four units won I had to go to the 4th step each time.  Fortunately, they all won.

+20 in 46 spins.

[Carsch]

Ok, I just did a quick test for 57 spins. It started really rough, then went smooth.

Profit +23
Highest bet 8:8
Drawdown -36

Very nice system. I have a feeling i'll be using this one on real play. But i'll do more tests.

By the way, I used your first suggestion, George.

Thanks Alberto

[albertojonas]

why do you use penultimate instead of last?

if use last you take advantage from streaks on dozzens...

[GLC]

Why do you use penultimate instead of last?

if use last you take advantage from streaks on dozzens...

No real reason for penultimate.

Streaks are good and even chops or if you like you could always bet the same color. 

Except on the 5 dbl streets.  It feels like it's harder to lose if you're betting a dbl street won't hit 2 times in a row.

I don't know if the math supports that, just feels that way.

George

[dennisbelle]

I tested two sessions using spins in the Zumma roulette tester book (double zero wheel).  Both were easy sessions.  I used the 1-2-4-6-12-24 progression.  12 was my higest bet in the first session and 6 was my highest bet in the second session.  Allan Wilson said in his book "The Casino Gambler Guide" the acid test for a system was to double your bankroll 3 times so you end up with 8 times the bankroll you started with.

Session 1  +23 units
Session 2  +20 units

[dennisbelle]

Session 3  +21 units highest bet 24+24 (48 units)

[Carsch]

102 real live spins with double zero
Profit +42
Drawdown -36
Highest bet 8:8

I used the 1,2,4 - 2,4,8 - 4,8,16 progression

Spin   No   LastDoz -   B4Last RB - Last2Dozs - BAL
               
1    13            
2    9   -1         -1
3    22      2      1
4    32   -1         0
5    2      2      2
6    6   2         4
7    13   -1         3
8    6      2      5
9    21   -1         4
10   18      -2      2
11   15         4   6
12   24   2         8
13   18   2         10
14   21   2         12
15   32   -1         11
16   9      2      13
17   34   -1         12
18   3      2      14
19   32   -1         13
20   5      2      15
21   26   -1         14
22   19      2      16
23   31   -1         15
24   2      -2      13
25   6         4   17
26   3   -1         16
27   9      -2      14
28   1         4   18
29   29   -1         17
30   5      2      19
31   18   -1         18
32   19      2      20
33   26   -1         19
34   30      2      21
35   00   -1         20
36   31      2      22
37   17   -1         21
38   26      2      23
39   20   -1         22
40   17      2      24
41   30   -1         23
42   22      2      25
43   14   2         27
44   29   -1         26
45   25      2      28
46   12   -1         27
47   3   2         29
48   22   -1         28
49   8      -2      26
50   14         4   30
51   30   -1         29
52   26      -2      27
53   5         -8   19
54   32   -2   2nd Level      17
55   26      -4      13
56   21         -16   -3
57   12   -4   3rd level      -7
58   36      8      1
59   11   -4         -3
60   1      8      5
61   00   -4         1
62   28      8      9
63   36   8         17
64   24   -4         13
65   27      8      21
66   32   8         29
67   27   4   2nd level      33
68   11   -1   1st level       32
69   5      2      34
70   25   -1         33
71   22      -2      31
72   4         -8   23
73   11   4   2nd level      27
74   34   -2         25
75   25      -4      21
76   27         8   29
77   25   4         33
78   0   -2         31
79   21      4      35
80   22   2   1st level      37
81   33   -1         36
82   19      -2      34
83   32         4   38
84   3   -1         37
85   14      2      39
86   7   -1         38
87   33      -2      36
88   31         4   40
89   11   -1         39
90   23      -2      37
91   28         -8   29
92   24   -2   2nd level      27
93   4      4      31
94   31   -2         29
95   4      4      33
96   30   -2         31
97   13      4      35
98   34   -2         33
99   10      4      37
100   12   4         41
101   33   -1   1st level      40
102   18      2      42