KTF, is just like living in Paradise

[bigmoney]

Well matey ktf tanked big time and i lost $809

[Steve]

Well matey ktf tanked big time and i lost $809

You should never bet real money with a system unless you are first consistently winning in practice sessions. I recommend it even with my own systems because players can make mistakes.

Proper testing is a hell of a lot more spins than most people want to test. But even more important than testing the full system is TESTING THE WORKING PRINCIPLE OF THE SYSTEM - THE PART THAT SUPPOSEDLY CHANGES THE ODDS.

Why is changing the odds so important? Because if the odds dont change, and the payouts don't change, then NOTHING changes. You still end up losing in the long term. Hence.. "The only way to win roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions".

HOW you do that is another matter.

[bigmoney]

Well i did backtest it ...obviously  not long enough

[RouletteGhost]

All systems fail at some point

Stoploss is the key

[nottophammer]

There is always room for improvement. I was exploring earlier in the random thoughts topic how to remove some Ls and keep the Ws. I was also exploring how to merge games together.
Nottop - Hope the following gives you the way to do it in an improved way for today's spins. Try it out and let me know if the KS2 doesnt understand, I am happy to explain. I did code in a hurry, so might have a couple of errors, but mostly in line. It is essentially merging the formation of AP in three separate streams of data playing only the numbers that has appeared on this group. Aim is to keep the numbers unique, merge the betting opportunities so that we do away with some losses and wins to create an imbalance and see where it takes us. NO! not a claim for a winning system, but happy to explain if you have any queries and if you are interested. For one who are looking at trots, this should be interesting. +75 in today's spins.

In VDW am i on the right path, if i am, i will leave it alone, thanks

[Steve]

All systems fail at some point

Stoploss is the key

Stoploss is just a precaution for gamblers, so their wives dont make then sleep in the doghouse. It is not a key to anything else.

The only way to consistently win is increase accuracy of predictions. At least thats what i heard.

[Let Me Win]

In your first post Notto you state that in the end the FOBT "knows" your bet selection.

This is total nonsense.

[The General]

After having viewed Notto's graphs it's obvious that the system crashes.  The longer it's played, the larger the losses grow. This is why he only posts six or seven spins at a time.  When he does post larger plots you can see the bankroll crash.

[bigmoney]

Well general
Lotsa people make money off  nottos teachings ....much better than the law of the third crowd of HINTERS ......and lets not forget the greatest fallacy .....VADDIS ....... ba ha ha

[The General]

Well general
Lotsa people make money off  nottos teachings ...

No they don't.

[Steve]

Lotsa people make money off  nottos teachings

There are winners and losers. Losers move on. Winners think they have the hg, until they lose winnings and more. Wake up and see the cycle.

....much better than the law of the third crowd of HINTERS ......and lets not forget the greatest fallacy .....VADDIS ....... ba ha ha

Actually it's the same shit. The expectation is still the same.

The only difference between losing systems is the amount bet, and numbers covered. The effect of the differences is misinterpreted.

There are some very experienced players here. The advice is free. Understand what's being said. The explanations are clear.

[jono1167]

Well general
Lotsa people make money off  nottos teachings ....much better than the law of the third crowd of HINTERS ......and lets not forget the greatest fallacy .....VADDIS ....... ba ha ha

I tested KTF extensively last year. It’s the only method I have felt confident enough to play for real money.

I played 134 games for only four losses. KTF is generally very reliable, although it’s possible to get hit with a bad run where it’s impossible for your bankroll to recover. 

I implemented a stop-loss of 200 units. This worked for me. It would take an average of 8 games to get the bank-roll back on par after a loss.

Notto is always very helpful. Unlike a lot of people he doesn’t speak in riddles.

[Steve]

Say 100 people use the same system.

50 lose quickly and move on.

30 win for a while, and think the system is great, until they lose.

15 win for much longer, and think the system is great, until they lose.

5 win for a year or so, and think the system is great. They tell all the doubters they're wrong, and they defend the system. Until they lose.

See the pattern?

Almost every system is just random bets, and the player thinks theres some workable logic to it.

[Steve]

And really i admire nottos efforts and sharing. No problem there. But it's in vain because, like most systems, they make the same mistakes. Its not hard to understand why. It is explained constantly.

[The General]

And really i admire nottos efforts and sharing.

Since you point it out, I guess I have to agree.