I dont have a holygrail.. but something that works. Thinking of what to do

[MoneyT101]

I know this topic gets maybe created every week, so what the heck another one *Dj Khaled voice lol

I personally think C is the best option.  Everyone can benefit if system is producing good money, Im making money for sharing with everyone without disclosing the method.

I worked with nick last year and he helped me come up with a sheet for a vdw, nle, method.  Both method work because your not betting all over the place and they seem to keep the game close to 50/50.  Add a good money management method and it works.

I created a method based off the nle thread but the system is on dozens/columns.  Now im about trying to make income.  So im thinking I can get a website started and charge members to use the system(invite only type of membership). 

*sorry for bad grammar and any spelling mistakes. 4am here lol

[maestro]

i just wonder if your thing is that good and earns money why the feck you waste time posting at 4am instead smash the roulette and casino and go in bed...next day ...oh well i guess do it again....but i dont think thats the case

[wiggy]

I think you are right Maestro!

What money means to say is that 'I am a frustrated gambler with hardly any bankroll and I think this thing kinda works, so I will round up a few gullible punters and use them as guinea pigs. After all that would be a win/win situation. If they lose, it's no skin of my nose and if they win, great! I get a free bankroll'

Does that sound about right?

My advice would be to grow a pair and go use your own money if you think something works and either sink or swim.

[nottophammer]

I worked with nick last year and he helped me come up with a sheet for a vdw, nle, method.  Both method work because your not betting all over the place and they seem to keep the game close to 50/50.  Add a good money management method and it works.

So the part thats of concern is money management, as with all methods. Then the type of bet.

Now aren't we told it must be flat bet, progressions are a NO,NO.

So whats the easiest method you know of. Could it be just flat bet the non-hit? I know this wins often, but there are times when it wont as RFH appears like in all methods, but if profit out ways the RFH's, then thats a winner.

So im thinking I can get a website started and charge members to use the system(invite only type of membership). Are you steve?

[nottophammer]

Will Bleep, Brian, get free membership

[MoneyT101]

i just wonder if your thing is that good and earns money why the feck you waste time posting at 4am instead smash the roulette and casino and go in bed...next day ...oh well i guess do it again....but i dont think thats the case

Couldnt sleep so i was up testing.  Then i thought about whats the best route to take if it was as profitable as it seems. 

No reason to attack me.  Just speaking my mind and i made a poll to make it fun.  Lighten up!

[MoneyT101]

I think you are right Maestro!

What money means to say is that 'I am a frustrated gambler with hardly any bankroll and I think this thing kinda works, so I will round up a few gullible punters and use them as guinea pigs. After all that would be a win/win situation. If they lose, it's no skin of my nose and if they win, great! I get a free bankroll'

Does that sound about right?

My advice would be to grow a pair and go use your own money if you think something works and either sink or swim.

I have played with my own money.  I didnt make much cause i tested on an rng machine for change.  But I came out ahead.  I also then tested on airball and i was ahead but i didnt make all the plays because i couldnt keep up and calculate and wager at the same time.  so i was ahead on paper.

Its the reason why i needed a spreadsheet to do all the calculating for me.  During gameplay its to fast to check what to bet on and then check how much to wager on it.

[MoneyT101]

I worked with nick last year and he helped me come up with a sheet for a vdw, nle, method.  Both method work because your not betting all over the place and they seem to keep the game close to 50/50.  Add a good money management method and it works.

So the part thats of concern is money management, as with all methods. Then the type of bet.

Now aren't we told it must be flat bet, progressions are a NO,NO.

So whats the easiest method you know of. Could it be just flat bet the non-hit? I know this wins often, but there are times when it wont as RFH appears like in all methods, but if profit out ways the RFH's, then thats a winner.

So im thinking I can get a website started and charge members to use the system(invite only type of membership). Are you steve?

Ive been very supportive  of your ktf and other ideas.  No reason to come at me like this.  Its just a simple poll.

If you had something that makes money what would you do? Based on the A-D answers.

[MoneyT101]

Guys before you go all crazy bashing and making slick comments.   

ITS A F*****G POLL!!!!  Im still testing to see if it truly is profitable.  I used the word holygrail in the main topic because it attracts conversation.  Then i also wanted to know what someone else would do if they THOUGHT they had something profitable.

Ive shared where my ideas came from.  VDW, NLE threads.  I am still testing and putting things together, just i like the way things are going and wanted to have an interesting conversation.

[INTERCEPTOR]

Can someone tell me how many holy grails we have so far?

[RouletteGhost]

KTF might be a HG for someone

I can't judge what someone else's see as a HG

I've seen the sheets

I know how KTF works

Played properly it cannot lose

Just not playable with a live dealer

[MoneyT101]

KTF might be a HG for someone

I can't judge what someone else's see as a HG

I've seen the sheets

I know how KTF works

Played properly it cannot lose

Just not playable with a live dealer

unless you play online 

Thats sort of the problem i am having.  Its hard to play live because things need to be calculated.  I have some ideas for that, might have to go secret agent and get a camera with a microphone lol.  Have one person playing while another crunches the numbers lmao

RG what you voted for?

[wiggy]

Money, no one is going crazy, just giving our thoughts on the matter.

AP/VDW is interesting.....no doubt about that! Once you start looking at non-random concepts, like Nick said, you probably won't go back to looking at random ways because you will realise it's futile and who wants to waste more time chasing their tail. AP/VDW can help reduce the variance or that run from hell that random produces for sure.

I will always be thankful to Pryanka for sharing the concept and to others as well for keeping on about it enough to make me give it some serious thought. They did all that for free without asking for anything in return. That was very kind of them. So I personally think it's a bit off for others to then go and start charging for basically the same info. I know for a 100% fact that there are some great ideas floating around to do with all this. I said to a friend the other day that it would be great if there was a kind of AP/VDW forum where people could join together and share ideas and brainstorm. At the end of the day, this is Steve's forum and he has is own niche. I don't think this is the place for it.

Anyway, I hope what you have really does work and you get what you want from it.

cheers

[Priyanka]

You can drink water from a fountain or tap - well free. You can go to a shop and buy it - hmm, they will charge you. There are takers for both, as long as a choice is available.

[MoneyT101]

Money, no one is going crazy, just giving our thoughts on the matter.

AP/VDW is interesting.....no doubt about that! Once you start looking at non-random concepts, like Nick said, you probably won't go back to looking at random ways because you will realise it's futile and who wants to waste more time chasing their tail. AP/VDW can help reduce the variance or that run from hell that random produces for sure.

I will always be thankful to Pryanka for sharing the concept and to others as well for keeping on about it enough to make me give it some serious thought. They did all that for free without asking for anything in return. That was very kind of them. So I personally think it's a bit off for others to then go and start charging for basically the same info. I know for a 100% fact that there are some great ideas floating around to do with all this. I said to a friend the other day that it would be great if there was a kind of AP/VDW forum where people could join together and share ideas and brainstorm. At the end of the day, this is Steve's forum and he has is own niche. I don't think this is the place for it.

Anyway, I hope what you have really does work and you get what you want from it.

cheers

Thank you Wiggy, thats conversation there.  No attacking this time, I appreciate it.

Yes AP/VDW was shared free but keep in mind there is missing information.  Pri didnt share everything. 

Why do you think that is ?

Now the way i see it is i can still keep everything to myself the same way Pri did it.  but i can make it useable to anyone i would like and charge for the service. 

This is me speaking based on the open POLL/Topic.....

Pri kept hidden info and stopped sharing and now no one truly knows how to really use the info how she does.

I think making a service where you share and let ppl win wit the info without sharing the secret is better then not having anything at all.

What do you think better to have something and pay to use it?  or not have anything at all and be able to do nothing with it?

option one will cost you but make you money and option 2 gets you no where

I appreciate everyone posting and sharing their opinions.  Thank you guys