I dont have a holygrail.. but something that works. Thinking of what to do

[MoneyT101]

You can drink water from a fountain or tap - well free. You can go to a shop and buy it - hmm, they will charge you. There are takers for both, as long as a choice is available.

Im glad you came in here!.... what you shared changed the way many of us look at the game and i thank you.

At the same time it was the tip of the iceberg... so where did it really leave many of us?  You took most of it back and said the information doesnt work and doesnt help.   

[MoneyT101]

Can you guys please Vote??  I really want some input from everyone.  Want to hear from different minds

Lets talk...

[ozon]

The question is  what MM wants to use, with all due respect to Nick his Vdw strategy had probably drawdawn about 170 units in one moment before back to zero, Nle dont have real edge. Only superior MM can, with these strategies make something profitable.
Bringing money straight away is a joke.
If you have a profitable strategy and if is playable, I can share the profit to the end of my life with 30% of winnings.
But do not pay for something that is not checked.
Such offerings I directed to anyone who has such strategies, but we know how many of the strategies works in the long run.

[RouletteGhost]

B

[vladir]

In all honesty, I would chose B.

Because of two reasons:

1 - The info here directly or inderectly makes the pathway to achieve a profitable method (if you ever achieve one) shorter. So it's just returning to the community that helped you get there.

2 - A profitable method may have room for improvement in ways others can see that you won't. But no one wil be able to improve what they don't know of.

[INTERCEPTOR]

Keep it for your self because not working 

[RouletteGhost]

If you answer D then a forum in general is not a good place for you.

[DoctorSudoku]

I voted  for B also.

Otherwise, why have a forum or participate in a forum  (unless you are genuinely selfish)?

[MoneyT101]

Nle dont have real edge. Only superior MM can, with these strategies make something profitable.
Bringing money straight away is a joke.
If you have a profitable strategy and if is playable, I can share the profit to the end of my life with 30% of winnings.

The reason why NLE and VDW are very good like i said before is because it keeps the game a little bit in control.  Yea you get a drawdown but mm is key.

[MoneyT101]

vladir, DoctorSudoku  i respect that nd i get what you mean

RouletteGhost  i agree D is the most selfish thing in my honest opinion.

MumboJumbo thanks for your humor.... i do recall reading about you having the holygrail and not sharing it.  what makes you better 

[maestro]

Just speaking my mind and i made a poll to make it fun

so did i...

oh and question...if player invest money say on your web site and pay and play and lose with your system does one get refund..

[RouletteGhost]

I don't see a problem with somebody being selfish but the fact of the matter is an Internet form is no place for someone who wants to conceal information

[Still]

Imagine an inventors forum where people like Tesla and Edison can report on their findings...NOT. 

What you'll find instead are all the light bulb tests that did not work.   

And teasers.  Testers and teasers. 

On the other hand, failed tests may help.  Problem is you can never take the word of someone who says a test failed...from someone who would not share any positive findings anyway.

Can't say as i blame anybody. After all, you don't want ISIS operatives to fund their terrorist ops from some idea laid out here in plain daylight.

On the other hand, you'd think people who get 90% of their ideas from here would pay it forward, or backward, if they come up with an additional 2% that puts an idea over the edge.

Always funny to see such outspoken participants...until they actually come up with something.  Then it's all private message, if at all.

True enough, those who don't put some skin in the game can't motivate group sourcing for more ideas that could put something over the edge.

It's just an opinion that if a load is placed on the group for intellectual resources, there should be some pay back. 

This assumes, of course, that it's at all possible to influence the game with just numbers, formulas, calculations, and/or money management. 

In marketing, there's this idea of giving away something of value, but of lesser value, to motivate an up-sell. 

You'd think if people had a significant edge, they could come up with a few rules of play that would enable people to 'earn as they learn' , if indeed the plan is to never disclose how pieces of a puzzle fit together. 

Nothing wrong with selling a service either, for a percentage/fee...if something actually works.

One contributor here has shown how you can give away an original system, but sell it too, with a few extra bells and whistles.

It appears there are some decent grinds to be had here. 

But to rise above the grind, and fly, it appears it would be easier to sit and stare at a candle for two years, until you can see through a deck of cards...than to sift through all the shifty signals people put out...trying to get group resources, without actually disclosing anything. 

By the way, i don't have anything original that has an edge, if anyone is wondering. 





 

[MoneyT101]

if player invest money say on your web site and pay and play and lose with your system does one get refund..

Like i said i made the poll cause the idea came into my head a way to make a win win... i haven't thought of how the site would be yet, for now its just an idea

but i did think of this question.  There will be rules and when you punch in a number the system will keep track of everything.  So it will know if you lost or won a session.  So depending on my further testing and confidence in not losing.  I believe i can have a refund in place or some type of compensation.   

[MoneyT101]

Still thanks for your input, i always enjoy reading your post 

I do feel that creating something in which many can benefit is still paying it forward.  Its much better then keeping it all to myself.  Sharing all information wont work because value will be lost

how will value be lost?  lets say its a winning method. 

everyone will have it....lost of value
casino will change the way the game is played.... lost of value

if the site is done in private on an invite only basis....  has value
charging for a membership....  has value because many ppl will not want to pay to be part of it


everyone part of it gets to use the info and make money( whole point is to help each other, giving all the info isnt always helping)... might not disclose how but if you make money, do you really care?