The Non-Random Master Strategy

falkor2k15 · Apr 09, 12:06 PM 2017

Quote from: RayManZ on Apr 09, 11:36 AM 2017
I believe it's counted as a win because one AP has to win in 9 spins.

Currently, a clash is counted as end of set - neither win or loss - but it can count as a win if betting for an AP situation instead of an actual AP. The "L" means one potential AP that failed to materialize followed by a clash (to correct myself above).

falkor2k15 · Apr 09, 12:13 PM 2017

Clash = Deadlock

RouletteGhost · Apr 09, 12:21 PM 2017

stringbeanpc · Apr 09, 12:55 PM 2017

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 09, 12:01 PM 2017
It means the clash comes without any prior potential APs forming up to the point

This is an example of a deadlock in postion 7 (indicated by an X)
BBR BRB X
To complete AP 147 bet Black
To complete AP 357 bet Red

This is an example of a deadlock in postion 8 (indicated by an X)
BBR BBR RX
To complete AP 258 bet Black
To complete AP 678 bet Red

This is an example of a deadlock in postion 9 (indicated by an X)
Priyanka's example in post #2 of Random Thoughts thread
BRR BBR RBX
To complete AP 159 bet Black
To complete AP 369 bet Red

Each of these 3 examples would be included in the "L - 48 times" group.
falkor, just to clarify, is this your understanding as well ?

stringbeanpc · Apr 09, 01:13 PM 2017

Quote from: stringbeanpc on Apr 09, 12:55 PM 2017
This is an example of a deadlock in postion 7 (indicated by an X)
BBR BRB X
To complete AP 147 bet Black
To complete AP 357 bet Red

my bad - AP 246 here would be a Win on Black

This is an example of a deadlock in postion 8 (indicated by an X)
BBR BBR RX
To complete AP 258 bet Black
To complete AP 678 bet Red

This is an example of a deadlock in postion 9 (indicated by an X)
Priyanka's example in post #2 of Random Thoughts thread
BRR BBR RBX
To complete AP 159 bet Black
To complete AP 369 bet Red

Each of these 3 examples would be included in the "L - 48 times" group.
falkor, just to clarify, is this your understanding as well ?

falkor2k15 · Apr 09, 01:15 PM 2017

Quote from: stringbeanpc on Apr 09, 12:55 PM 2017
This is an example of a deadlock in postion 7 (indicated by an X)
BBR BRB X
To complete AP 147 bet Black
To complete AP 357 bet Red

This is an example of a deadlock in postion 8 (indicated by an X)
BBR BBR RX
To complete AP 258 bet Black
To complete AP 678 bet Red

This is an example of a deadlock in postion 9 (indicated by an X)
Priyanka's example in post #2 of Random Thoughts thread
BRR BBR RBX
To complete AP 159 bet Black
To complete AP 369 bet Red

Each of these 3 examples would be included in the "L - 48 times" group.
falkor, just to clarify, is this your understanding as well ?

Poss. 3,5,7 (Low)
Poss. 1,4,7 (High)
Clash! (Low/High) L

Poss. 5,6,7 (High)
Poss. 3,5,7 (High)
Poss. 1,4,7 (Low)
Clash! (Low/High) L

Poss. 5,6,7 (Low)
Poss. 1,4,7 (High)
Clash! (Low/High) L

Above in the L - 48 group.

For the deadlock position 9 I got only LLL situation:
Poss. 5,7,9 (High)
Poss. 3,6,9 (Low)
Clash! (Low/High) LLL

stringbeanpc · Apr 09, 01:50 PM 2017

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 09, 01:15 PM 2017
For the deadlock position 9 I got only LLL situation:
Poss. 5,7,9 (High)
Poss. 3,6,9 (Low)
Clash! (Low/High) LLL

You are correct ! Thanks for pointing out my mistake

falkor2k15 · Apr 11, 03:14 PM 2017

Quote from: stringbeanpc on Apr 09, 01:50 PM 2017
You are correct ! Thanks for pointing out my mistake

4 x L also!

Poss. 3,6,9 (High)
Poss. 1,5,9 (Low)
Clash! (Low/High) LLLL

falkor2k15 · Apr 12, 06:21 AM 2017

My new VdW simulator...

falkor2k15 · Apr 12, 08:21 PM 2017

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falkor2k15 · Apr 13, 07:30 AM 2017

Some new stats I'll be analyzing...

16 APs
AP1: 1,2,3
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AP8: 1,3,5
AP9: 2,4,6
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AP16: 5,7,9

KEY
2 ( 3 ) High = Possible AP2 ( @ spin #3 ) for High
CD6+12 ( 7 ) = Clash/Deadlock on APs 6+12 ( @ spin #7 )
AP6+12 ( 8 ) High = AP 6+12 ( @ spin 8 ) for High

SAMPLE DATA

	2 ( 3 ) High		4 ( 5 ) Low					LW
		8 ( 4 ) Low	4+9 ( 5 ) High		CD6+12 ( 7 )	AP12 ( 8 ) High		LL
		3+8 ( 4 ) High						W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		CD5+10 ( 6 )	AP5 ( 7 ) Low			L
1 ( 2 ) Low			4+9 ( 5 ) Low	10 ( 6 ) Low				LLW
1 ( 2 ) Low			4+9 ( 5 ) Low	10 ( 6 ) Low				LLW
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High						LW
	2 ( 3 ) Low		4 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High	CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP5+11 ( 7 ) Low			LL
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High				LLW
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High						LW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High				LLW
	2 ( 3 ) Low		4 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High	CD6+12 ( 7 )	AP6 ( 8 ) Low		LLL
		8 ( 4 ) Low	4+9 ( 5 ) High		CD6+12 ( 7 )	AP6 ( 8 ) Low		LL
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
		3+8 ( 4 ) Low						W
	2 ( 3 ) High		4 ( 5 ) Low					LW
		8 ( 4 ) Low						W
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		10 ( 6 ) High				LW
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low						LW
1 ( 2 ) Low			4+9 ( 5 ) Low					LW
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High						LW
	2 ( 3 ) Low		4 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
		8 ( 4 ) High						W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		10 ( 6 ) High				LW
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High					LW
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		CD5+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			L
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
		8 ( 4 ) Low	4+9 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High	CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			LL
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low						LW
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High						LW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High						W
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low						LW
	2 ( 3 ) High		4 ( 5 ) Low					LW
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
		8 ( 4 ) High						W
		8 ( 4 ) High	4+9 ( 5 ) Low		12 ( 7 ) Low			LLW
		8 ( 4 ) Low	4+9 ( 5 ) High		CD6+12 ( 7 )	AP6 ( 8 ) Low		LL
	2 ( 3 ) High		4 ( 5 ) Low					LW
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low		5 ( 6 ) High				LLW
	2 ( 3 ) Low			CD11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			L
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High	CD6+12 ( 7 )	AP12 ( 8 ) High		LLL
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
		3+8 ( 4 ) Low						W
	2 ( 3 ) High		4 ( 5 ) Low					LW
		8 ( 4 ) Low	4+9 ( 5 ) High		CD6+12 ( 7 )	AP6 ( 8 ) Low		LL
1 ( 2 ) Low			9 ( 5 ) Low					LW
	2 ( 3 ) High			CD11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) Low			L
		3+8 ( 4 ) Low						W
1 ( 2 ) Low			9 ( 5 ) Low	CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) Low			LL
		3+8 ( 4 ) Low		10 ( 6 ) Low	CD13+12 ( 7 )	AP13 ( 8 ) Low		LL
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low		5 ( 6 ) High	12 ( 7 ) High	CD7+14 ( 8 )	AP14 ( 9 ) High	LLLL
		8 ( 4 ) High						W
	2 ( 3 ) Low		4 ( 5 ) High					LW
	2 ( 3 ) Low			CD11+10 ( 6 )	AP11 ( 7 ) Low			L
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High		5 ( 6 ) Low				LLW
		3+8 ( 4 ) Low						W
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High						LW
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low						LW
	2 ( 3 ) High			CD11+10 ( 6 )	AP11 ( 7 ) High			L
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High					LW
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High		5 ( 6 ) Low				LLW
		3+8 ( 4 ) Low						W
		3+8 ( 4 ) Low						W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
	2 ( 3 ) Low			CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			L
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low		5 ( 6 ) High				LLW
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		10 ( 6 ) High				LW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
	2 ( 3 ) Low			CD11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			L
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High				LLW
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High	CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			LL
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		CD5+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			L
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High				LLW
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High	CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP5+11 ( 7 ) Low			LL
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
		8 ( 4 ) Low						W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
		8 ( 4 ) Low						W
	2 ( 3 ) High		4 ( 5 ) Low	10 ( 6 ) Low	6 ( 7 ) High	CD15+14 ( 8 )	AP15 ( 9 ) High	LLLL
		8 ( 4 ) High						W
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low		5 ( 6 ) High				LLW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
	2 ( 3 ) Low		4 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low			CD6+13+12 ( 7 )	AP6+13 ( 8 ) Low		LL
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
		8 ( 4 ) High						W
	2 ( 3 ) Low			CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			L
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low						LW
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low			4+9 ( 5 ) Low	10 ( 6 ) Low				LLW
1 ( 2 ) Low			9 ( 5 ) Low	CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP5+11 ( 7 ) High			LL
		8 ( 4 ) High	4+9 ( 5 ) Low					LW
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High					LW
	2 ( 3 ) Low			CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP5+11 ( 7 ) Low			L
	2 ( 3 ) High		4 ( 5 ) Low					LW
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
	2 ( 3 ) High			CD11+10 ( 6 )	AP11 ( 7 ) High			L
	2 ( 3 ) Low		4 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High				LLW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
		8 ( 4 ) High						W
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low						LW
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High			CD6+13+12 ( 7 )	AP6+13 ( 8 ) High		LL
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		10 ( 6 ) High	CD13+12 ( 7 )	AP13 ( 8 ) High		LL
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low			CD6+13+12 ( 7 )	AP6+13 ( 8 ) Low		LL
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		CD5+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			L
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		10 ( 6 ) High				LW
	2 ( 3 ) Low		4 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High	6 ( 7 ) Low			LLLW
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		10 ( 6 ) High				LW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
	2 ( 3 ) High		4 ( 5 ) Low					LW
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High		5 ( 6 ) Low	12 ( 7 ) Low	CD7+14 ( 8 )	AP7 ( 9 ) High	LLLL
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
1 ( 2 ) Low			9 ( 5 ) Low					LW
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
		8 ( 4 ) High	4+9 ( 5 ) Low		CD6+12 ( 7 )	AP6 ( 8 ) High		LL
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		CD5+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			L
1 ( 2 ) High								W
		8 ( 4 ) High	4+9 ( 5 ) Low					LW
		8 ( 4 ) Low						W
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High			CD6+13+12 ( 7 )	AP12 ( 8 ) Low		LL
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High						LW
		8 ( 4 ) High						W
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High					LW
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
	2 ( 3 ) High			CD11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) Low			L
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High		10 ( 6 ) High	CD13+12 ( 7 )	AP12 ( 8 ) Low		LL
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High						W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High						W
	2 ( 3 ) Low			CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) High			L
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
	2 ( 3 ) High		4 ( 5 ) Low					LW
1 ( 2 ) Low			4+9 ( 5 ) Low					LW
1 ( 2 ) Low		3 ( 4 ) High		5 ( 6 ) Low	12 ( 7 ) Low	CD7+14 ( 8 )	AP14 ( 9 ) Low	LLLL
		3+8 ( 4 ) Low		CD5+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) Low			L
		8 ( 4 ) Low						W
	2 ( 3 ) High			CD11+10 ( 6 )	AP11 ( 7 ) High			L
1 ( 2 ) High								W
	2 ( 3 ) Low		4 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High	6 ( 7 ) Low	CD15+14 ( 8 )	AP15 ( 9 ) Low	LLLL
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High						W
1 ( 2 ) High								W
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High			4+9 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High				LLW
1 ( 2 ) High								W
		8 ( 4 ) High						W
	2 ( 3 ) Low		4 ( 5 ) High	10 ( 6 ) High				LLW
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low		5 ( 6 ) High				LLW
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low			CD6+13+12 ( 7 )	AP6+13 ( 8 ) Low		LL
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
		3+8 ( 4 ) High						W
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low						LW
		8 ( 4 ) Low	4+9 ( 5 ) High					LW
	2 ( 3 ) Low							W
		8 ( 4 ) Low	4+9 ( 5 ) High		12 ( 7 ) High	CD16+15 ( 8 )	AP15 ( 9 ) Low	LLL
	2 ( 3 ) High			CD11+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) Low			L
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
	2 ( 3 ) Low			CD5+11+10 ( 6 )	AP5+11 ( 7 ) Low			L
		3+8 ( 4 ) Low		CD5+10 ( 6 )	AP10 ( 7 ) Low			L
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low								W
1 ( 2 ) Low			4+9 ( 5 ) Low					LW
	2 ( 3 ) High							W
1 ( 2 ) High		3 ( 4 ) Low			CD13+12 ( 7 )	AP12 ( 8 ) High		LL
1 ( 2 ) High			9 ( 5 ) High					LW
1 ( 2 ) High								W

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