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I figured out the Holy Grail!

Started by falkor2k15, Apr 24, 05:41 PM 2017

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Proofreaders2000

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 07:57 PM 2017
OK, so once you've taken all that in then you are ready to understand how the HG works...



You see this mock-up of a Saxon House during construction? Well, imagine all the foundation posts are 8 random numbers... you cannot predict the 8 numbers - but you can predict the structure of the roof!

So that's it, folks... surprisingly simple... that's how the HG works!  :thumbsup:

I think I've figured this one out

Bet each new number that comes out

1 chip+2 chips+3 chips+4 chips+5 chips+ 6chips+7 chips+8 chips

Stop on a win

Example:

#21 (newest spin-value)
Bet #21:  1.) 13(x)

Bet 21,13:   2.) 0(x)

Bet 21,13,0:   3.) 5(x)...up to eight numbers in play
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That said it needs a progression each session for it to work profitably.

rrbb

Hi Proofreaders,

You are joking right? This is a waiting strategy: it will steal you blind.

The number of units needed=

Spins*(Spins+1)*0.5.

Plug in spins=8. This will give 36. So if the repeat occurs in more than 8 spins: you loose (big time).

You can also think about it like this.

When you play this strategy for an infinite time: all numbers will have occured an infinite number of times.

So the result of this strategy is a combination of 37 static bets (1 unit per number). ...

nottophammer

Bet each new number that comes out

1 chip+2 chips+3 chips+4 chips+5 chips+ 6chips+7 chips+8 chips
You are joking right?
1 chip+2 chips+3 chips+4 chips+5 chips+ 6chips+7 chips+8 chips
Our old mate is just starting, so he sees 37 numbers are due. So he’s right at this point, due.
Spin gives Falkor #36. So what is wrong with that? Now he has a decision, he can bet one number, or wait; waiting is costing Mr F only his time. Again decision time, bet the 2#’s 36, 11 or wait.
Okay let’s get an independent observers opinion, Not some Harvard math intellectual thou but someone who’s got common sense.
We ask them where the next #is likely to come from, the 2 numbers on the marquee or the 35 remaining non-hit numbers. So what does common sense say? The larger group.
Why does Mr Casino not like large spread of #’s?
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Apr 24, 06:12 PM 2017
The strange thing about it is that my sworn brother also figured out how the HG worked the night before I did - though not quite at the same depth as how I understand it. And I would never have figured it out without the combined help of 6 :lol: other people, including my brother (Dilshod):
--Priyanka
--Reddwarf
--Dilshod / donik7777
--Lohnro
--Gizmotron
Nottophammer

Thanks guys!  :thumbsup:

I reckon the HG was first discovered by Dyksexlic around 2009/2010 who helped rrbb/reddwarf discover it by 2012. Reddwarf had a number of students it seems, including Priyanka, 3Nine, possibly praline and a handful of others. Priyanka was in possession of the HG by 2013. I'm not sure how many others know it besides the top 3 in the above list - it wouldn't surprise me if there were around 10 people using it right now.

What would be really nice to find out is if Victor or Manrique knew the HG, as well as their connection with Dyksexlic, if any?

BTW, Dyksexlic is meant to be the undisputed master at using the HG!
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

10/10 makes you wonder,to many like the FOBT the other day.



How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

and following days




Theres plenty more
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Proofreaders2000

Quote from: rrbb on Jun 19, 02:15 AM 2017
Hi Proofreaders,

You are joking right? This is a waiting strategy: it will steal you blind.

The number of units needed=

Spins*(Spins+1)*0.5.

Plug in spins=8. This will give 36. So if the repeat occurs in more than 8 spins: you loose (big time).

You can also think about it like this.

When you play this strategy for an infinite time: all numbers will have occured an infinite number of times.

So the result of this strategy is a combination of 37 static bets (1 unit per number). ...

Well Falcor has the picture of 8 (I've come to think those eight are *numbers that have hit twice*)

and he brings up Dyk's system (the expanding eight) I mentioned earlier

I admit I was wrong earlier (tested and it flopped three consecutive times)

Bettingking

Im trying to combine the info provided but probably way off:
Betting 8 splits: 2units on 1 number and 1 unit on the other split number.
I assume flat bet in some form and possibly add the numbers when hit and their split pair.

Just an idea.

rrbb

Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 19, 04:57 AM 2017
and following days




Theres plenty more

Hi Nottohammer, so what does this proof? That with a progression and betting on the larger portion you have a consistent winner? Be careful where you tread my friend!

What is very nice about your system however: you bet on a process!

And yes, you are right, fancy math is not needed...

nottophammer

no just showing how the groups of 10 spins play, i, i wont say you will see the same, but i see more groups of 7/10 8/10 9/10 than 10/10

If you get a 10/10 then how many more of the larger starting group will come, the only prob is the repeat could come from group 11-20 spins, but if you have a top dog,cough Bankroll you could get the repeat from spins 1-10.

But between you and me its better to take 1st profit, like in, Is it really that hard to win.

Just been on MPR and showed after 40 spins to waggawo the remaining non-hit and guess what the usual avg for 60 spins is so close 29 in 60 spins.

Yes maths at the end of the day will be right, but the old wheel doesn't know its supposed to play to the math
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

plain and simple just bet the larger group, non-hit #'s and stop on 1st profit, plain enough to grasp.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

rrbb

Hi NTH,

Thanks for your reply. I posted a question related to this method. you might as well answer it here: I claim you are betting on a process. Agree?

If so: what is the process that you bet on? To clarify my question (or to try it at least): the description that you give is plain and simple. But there is a deeper thought behind it which has to do (correct me if I'm wrong) with the "number generation"...


Why I ask this? Because it will help clarify what betting on a process means. This might open a whole new avenue...


grts

nottophammer

To me your making to much out of a simple game, to much thought process.
Here it is, plain and simple no thought to it, just mark of the 1st 10 spins, now the hard bit by the sound of it, just bet remaining numbers from the large starting 37, if you see profit on spin 11.stop,or when 1st profit shows, stop.
Not much thinking envolved, even my mother-in-law can do it.


Now the but, now we're in a process, if you panic at the BR depleating, now the process starts, but by which, what do you know, to get out of the hole, if any. A play on fancy words is not going to help you.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

rrbb

Hi N2H,

I agree, it's plain and simple. If that's all it is, I will stop bothering you.

Just one more question: will you advice your grandmother to play with it to enhance her supplement her income??

grts

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