VdW

[MoneyT101]

Why is it that you have shared enough info?

That's usually the case round here. Sigh

Round round we go

I gave you an idea how to use vdw.  Matter of fact I gave you one of my personal ideas!  I also shed more light on cycles! 

At this point you have to do some searching.  Verify the info i posted, test out the idea on vdw i gave you.  Find out if it works for you. 

I laid out a path.... Follow it and see where it leads 

[MoneyT101]

Because he doesn't have anything worthwhile to share. Making you think he does. It's bizarre.

No, you guys just want to be spoon fed.  I gave you clear info; what to look at and an idea.... you wont even take the time to look at it!

If it was the HG you wouldnt have even tried.......Priyanka posted all the info in random thoughts just nobody looking,

whos fault is that?

[ADulay]

Why is it that every VDW thread I've been in always has someone who is angry.

I don't get it.

The play is pretty simple once you work it down to the basics but I'm not all that convinced it would work better with roulette than it does with baccarat.

AD

[DoctorSudoku]

Why is it that every VDW thread I've been in always has someone who is angry.

I don't get it.

The play is pretty simple once you work it down to the basics but I'm not all that convinced it would work better with roulette than it does with baccarat.

AD

ADulay,
Yes, I agree -- this method will or should work better with baccarat (no zeroes to contend with, especially when you are betting on the even chances).

But then this is a roulette forum ......

[RouletteGhost]

So adulay uses it

Back to post one

HOW?!

[stringbeanpc]

Imagine the following set of numbers have won in this order 19 is the oldest, 16 is the newest

19 11 29   36 35 22   34 16

this translates to

RBB RBB RR


and results with a VdW win on number 34 in positions 7 for an AP of 147



Just want to clarify, what is the proper way to track a new set ?



Option 1) begin the new set with number 16 being in position 1

or

Option 2) begin the new set with number 34 being in position 1 and 16 being in position 2
Just as priyanka showed us with cycles, use the spin that completed the cycle, as the first spin in the next cycle.


My thinking is that Option 2 is better, because if we get a 3 consecutive reds, we have another VdW win for positions 123


If we started the new set with option 1 it would require 4 consecutive red for Vdw to win on positions 123.

Also 3 consecutive Even chances occurs more frequently than 4 consecutive Even chances,
and  3 consecutive EC MUST appear prior to 4 consecutive EC

Any other thoughts ?

[nottophammer]

Imagine the following set of numbers have won in this order 19 is the oldest, 16 is the newest

19 11 29   36 35 22   34 16

this translates to

RBB RBB RR


and results with a VdW win on number 34 in positions 7 for an AP of 147



Just want to clarify, what is the proper way to track a new set ?



Option 1) begin the new set with number 16 being in position 1

or

Option 2) begin the new set with number 34 being in position 1 and 16 being in position 2
Just as priyanka showed us with cycles, use the spin that completed the cycle, as the first spin in the next cycle.


My thinking is that Option 2 is better, because if we get a 3 consecutive reds, we have another VdW win for positions 123


If we started the new set with option 1 it would require 4 consecutive red for Vdw to win on positions 123.

Also 3 consecutive Even chances occurs more frequently than 4 consecutive Even chances,
and  3 consecutive EC MUST appear prior to 4 consecutive EC

Any other thoughts ?

There you go RG dont think i could keep track, being keystage 2, thought i was keystage 3 PRIY

[stringbeanpc]

keystage ?

[MoneyT101]

Just want to clarify, what is the proper way to track a new set ?



Option 1) begin the new set with number 16 being in position 1

or

Option 2) begin the new set with number 34 being in position 1 and 16 being in position 2
Just as priyanka showed us with cycles, use the spin that completed the cycle, as the first spin in the next cycle.


My thinking is that Option 2 is better, because if we get a 3 consecutive reds, we have another VdW win for positions 123


If we started the new set with option 1 it would require 4 consecutive red for Vdw to win on positions 123.

Also 3 consecutive Even chances occurs more frequently than 4 consecutive Even chances,
and  3 consecutive EC MUST appear prior to 4 consecutive EC

Any other thoughts ?

Proper way is to start fresh with 16.....but i think either way would work, never tested it with option 2

[stringbeanpc]

MoneyT101, thanks for your reply

[ADulay]

Imagine the following set of numbers have won in this order 19 is the oldest, 16 is the newest

19 11 29   36 35 22   34 16

this translates to

RBB RBB RR

and results with a VdW win on number 34 in positions 7 for an AP of 147

Just want to clarify, what is the proper way to track a new set ?

Any other thoughts ?

Although the 1-4-7 did win, that particular string produced a loss at 2-3-4 and a mutual wager at 1-4-7 and 5-6-7.

AD

[stringbeanpc]

Although the 1-4-7 did win, that particular string produced a loss at 2-3-4 and a mutual wager at 1-4-7 and 5-6-7.

Yes, a Loss at position 4 then a deadlock at position 7

[Nickmsi]

Hi Stringbeanpc and all,

"Imagine the following set of numbers have won in this order 19 is the oldest, 16 is the newest

19 11 29   36 35 22   34 16

this translates to

RBB RBB RR


and results with a VdW win on number 34 in positions 7 for an AP of 147



Just want to clarify, what is the proper way to track a new set ?"

In my opinion, all ways to track the AP are good.

What you are describing here is what I call ES(Every Spin).  It is  "look back" method rather than the normal "look forward" method.

I like the ES method because you ride every streak.

Just look at the last 2 spins(hands) and if you have BB then bet B.  Now you have BBB.
Just look back at the last 2 spins(hands) and you still have BB so bet B again. Now you have BBBB.  Ride the streak.

If you don't get a B then continue to look for next AP.

Cheers
Nick

[winkel]

It is a fact that we have just a 50:50 chance. that is no edge.

As long as you bet on the R/B or H/L or E/O you will just equal.

Do a trick on it:
Bet as you do on basic. But then note if you Lost or Won.
You will get a LW sequence.

Use the VdW-AP on this sequence and you have killed the wheel.

[cht]

Although the 1-4-7 did win, that particular string produced a loss at 2-3-4 and a mutual wager at 1-4-7 and 5-6-7.

AD

This renders the 1-4-7 'result' irrelevant. The earlier mutual bet makes this sequence unbettable.

I found 2 series type, eg. 2-4-6 and 3-5-7/1-4-7 with no mutual wager and no earlier possible completion all known beforehand. It works best at the start of a bacs deck. Check out this series over a large number of decks to show the edge. It might work mid deck but the edge is lower. With roulette, well...