VdW

[Malvador]

The waiting game will not work.

Not waiting... Betting constantly  (in increasing amounts) untill the guaranteed event comes! When it comes you will get profit (but only if you increase your bet relative to how much you've lost) so that when you do win (which you will, because it's the formation of an AP)  (which has to happen) you end in profit.

[3Nine]

Got it, thanks for clarifying.

[Malvador]

I totally understand the concept

But we do not know where the AP will form

So how do you use it for the game? At that point it's a guessing game

Hehe that's called the Random part... The NON random part is the fact you know it's going to happen! If you know something is coming before it happens, it's just a matter of progression and MM... The great thing is that there is a maximum limit to the when. The when has to be within 9 spins... Excluding zero for now!

[winkel]

Not waiting... Betting constantly  (in increasing amounts) untill the guaranteed event comes! When it comes you will get profit (but only if you increase your bet relative to how much you've lost) so that when you do win (which you will, because it's the formation of an AP)  (which has to happen) you end in profit.

Sorry, that is completely wrong!

[RouletteGhost]

Sorry, that is completely wrong!

So then explain it.

[RouletteGhost]

Regardless of vdw the next spin can either be red or black so how could help us win

[Malvador]

Sorry, that is completely wrong!

Sorry! Im just throwing ideas around, please could you explain a litlle more or point me in the right direction at least. You obviously know and I obviously don't! Please just point me to the areas I need to look at more.

You don't even need to explain step by step, I'm happy to work at it but just need the right guidance. Many thanks

[Still]

If we played the 9 anomalies, then we'd be playing the last five spins.  If we could count on a win in those five spins, we could get rich using a five step martingale of sorts.   However, in about 20% of those 5 spin sets, a "mutual" bet will come up, which is like a fly landing in your soup.  All bets are off at that point.  If this happened back to back, it's not as easy as a five step progression anymore, when the one guaranteed win happens on the deadlocked bet, which you technically cannot bet, because it's 50/50 at best. 

Would need to see more statistics on this to see clearly what might work.   

[winkel]

The basic AP is an order of 3 same elements:

BBB
B.B.B
B..B..B

You only bet on the 3rd appearance of that element. You con´t bet permanently!

The chance to be right is 50:50!
BBR
B.B.R
B..B..R
are the losing rows. These don´t build an AP!

What we know is: if we are looking for an AP of thre same elements, we will find at least one in a row of 9 elements.

9 elements:
BBBBBBBBB

in this we find all possible 16 combinations of an AP!
But to win, we just have to find 1 AP, and the stopp.
If our first try failed, we can be sure to find at least one AP in the next up to 9th try.

But we have to face, that after the 6th position all possible AP´s can be of one or the other colour if there hasn´t been shown an AP before.

What we can do is this:

first two spins, we can´t bet at all.
first possible bet is on the third spin if we startet with BB? bet B
first possible bet is on the fourth spin if we startet with RBB? bet B
first possible bet is in the 5th spin if we started with BRBR? bet B
first possible bet is in the 5th also if we started RRBB? bet B
first possible bet is in the 6th spin if we started RBxRR? bet R

pls note this all fits also to the opposite orders of R and/or B

first spin is an R - so we virtually follow R
Zero in first spin: we just ignore and restart with the next spin.
RZero now we list Zero as nonR(B)

If we couldn´t manage to find an AP within the first 6 spins, we stop and restart.
Possible losses 1 or 2 bets!

Restart your game with an adaquate Progression. Try to figure out how many rows of 6 spins in order won´t give you at least one AP!

[Malvador]

Thank you winkel, can we retrack or overlap sets? Ie. Use the 6th spin as the first spin in the new set?

Is it 3 sets of 6?

Just thinking.
In 9 spins ( a set) 3 elements of the set must hold the same property... Does it also follow then that in 6 spins ( a set) 2 elements must hold the same property...

How did I come to this... Simply 9/3 = 3
3/3 =1 so multiple both by 2... To get 6 spins and 2 the same...

[MoneyT101]

Not waiting... Betting constantly  (in increasing amounts) untill the guaranteed event comes! When it comes you will get profit (but only if you increase your bet relative to how much you've lost) so that when you do win (which you will, because it's the formation of an AP)  (which has to happen) you end in profit.

No that's not right!

Vdw is used to create AP correct.  But what you guys are not understanding is that vdw by itself is 50/50

IT IS NOT USED BY ITSELF!
☝️

😱There is a balanced game and an imbalanced game!!

👉Clearly if it's not balanced and some side is more favorable and you use vdw, wouldn't you say the favorable side will show up more 🤔

🚨I suggest you try to attack one part and then the other!  Everything all together is just confusing you because you aren't even done understanding the thing from before.  Try to understand one thing at a time and why it does what it does and then move on.  🚨

I cant speak anymore clear and help anymore then I am already doing. 

[Still]

No that's not right!


😱There is a balanced game and an imbalanced game!!

👉Clearly if it's not balanced and some side is more favorable and you use vdw, wouldn't you say the favorable side will show up more 🤔

Does this suggest that VdW can be used to suggest when there is a balance that can be exploited somewhere else, or imbalance to be exploited with another game altogether?

[RouletteGhost]

so why are you not all rich from exploiting this on baccarat?

there is more to it

[RouletteGhost]

It's easy to make mistakes when first looking at this. Here is a little chart which tells you what AP combinations can appear during the 9 spins.

Spin 3 = 123
Spin 4 = 234
Spin 5 = 345, 135
Spin 6 = 456, 246
Spin 7 = 567, 357, 147
Spin 8 = 678, 468, 258
Spin 9 = 789, 579, 369, 159

16 AP combinations in total.

[MoneyT101]

Does this suggest that VdW can be used to suggest when there is a balance that can be exploited somewhere else, or imbalance to be exploited with another game altogether?

Yes