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[nottophammer]

Spin 1&2, so no bet for spin 3
Spin 1&3, wait for spin 5,
Spin 1&4, wait for spin 7,
Spin 3&4, bet spin 5, and lose
Spin 2&5, wait for spin 8,
Spin 6 at this time unknown
Spin 5&6 bet red at 7, but spin 1&4 is bet for black at spin 7, conflict

[cht]

And you will tell us, that you win. Give us your system and we will praise you

So I guess I'm alone doing this.

My system is a very boring grind. Tracking ECs rb, bs, oe over 24 decks bacs or 500 roulette spins I get 3-5 bets daily. As to the meaning of win, it's like 40+ units per month, most people will laugh at it. And you people win 20-30 units per day or 100+ units, are you guys kidding with such a large edge over the casino, is it even possible? Casino games flawed?

Some people say we can't use hand phones at the table, at my local b&m they even provide USB charging ports on their electronic tables - the rules are different?

Most people here don't give their bread&butter system, same with me. I designed mine on excel based on fx charts & tools, that's all I'll share.

[Still]

So I guess I'm alone doing this.

My system is a very boring grind. Tracking ECs rb, bs, oe over 24 decks bacs or 500 roulette spins I get 3-5 bets daily. As to the meaning of win, it's like 40+ units per month, most people will laugh at it. And you people win 20-30 units per day or 100+ units, are you guys kidding with such a large edge over the casino, is it even possible? Casino games flawed?

Some people say we can't use hand phones at the table, at my local b&m they even provide USB charging ports on their electronic tables - the rules are different?

Most people here don't give their bread&butter system, same with me. I designed mine on excel based on fx charts & tools, that's all I'll share.

If you open a thread and talk about it, you might not be the only one doing it anymore.   

How are you able to sit at the table for 500 spins/cards, phone in hand, and only bet 3-5 times?

So do you use off-the-shelf indicators?

[cht]

If you open a thread and talk about it, you might not be the only one doing it anymore.   

How are you able to sit at the table for 500 spins/cards, phone in hand, and only bet 3-5 times?

So do you use off-the-shelf indicators?

I do this at the electronic tables right now actually. 125spins per session with my partner for 2 - 3hr sessions giving 500spins. HP is no problem at the electronic tables. Signal to flat bet 3-5 per day.

Yes, off-the-shelf Indis but I have to write it on excel macro and create the charts with dot signals. If you know how to write mql codes, it'll be easier else you gotta learn these stuff from scratch. BTW you need to learn how to trade off fix indis first & foremost and that's another large part to learn.

So, it's not that simple as to just start a thread to share. I've shared how I do it, if you've done fx you'll understand what I shared. Anyway, don't think this is the correct thread to talk about it - just responding to questions. Apologize RouletteGhost.

[sugtips]

Most people here don't give their bread&butter system, same with me. I designed mine on excel based on fx charts & tools, that's all I'll share.

You become first and please share your bread & butter system, it will become lots of needy people's b&b system. thanks.

[Still]

I do this at the electronic tables right now actually. 125spins per session with my partner for 2 - 3hr sessions giving 500spins. HP is no problem at the electronic tables. Signal to flat bet 3-5 per day.

Yes, off-the-shelf Indis but I have to write it on excel macro and create the charts with dot signals. If you know how to write mql codes, it'll be easier else you gotta learn these stuff from scratch. BTW you need to learn how to trade off fix indis first & foremost and that's another large part to learn.

So, it's not that simple as to just start a thread to share. I've shared how I do it, if you've done fx you'll understand what I shared. Anyway, don't think this is the correct thread to talk about it - just responding to questions. Apologize RouletteGhost.

But how are you able to spin any machine 500 times, and only bet 3-5 times?

I'm familiar with FX and common indis, as well as mql (Metaquotes) language, VB/VBA language, and Excel formulas. 

So you would normally do this with MetaTrader/MetaQuotes, but built it in VBA for Excel for Roulette/Baccarat?

[cht]

But how are you able to spin any machine 500 times, and only bet 3-5 times?

The local b&m property has 2 sections - manual tables and electronic table games which runs continuously at approx 1spin per minute with 40+ betting tables per machine. You don't need to place bets while waiting for the right betting opportunity.

I'm familiar with FX and common indis, as well as mql (Metaquotes) language, VB/VBA language, and Excel formulas. 

So you would normally do this with MetaTrader/MetaQuotes, but built it in VBA for Excel for Roulette/Baccarat?

Yes, since you are familiar you might want to explore this. With roulette/bacs, you don't have to deal with spread, slippage on order fills, no spikes SL hunting, black swan and the rest....and it's cash basis.

[Still]

Yes, since you are familiar you might want to explore this. With roulette/bacs, you don't have to deal with spread, slippage on order fills, no spikes SL hunting, black swan and the rest....and it's cash basis.

I'm curious how many indis you are using, the longest and shortest lookback period, and the win% on the few bets that you take.  Must be high if you only use a 12 unit bankroll.  Actually the win% only makes sense if i also know the % of the wheel  covered on the average bet.

[cht]

I'm curious how many indis you are using, the longest and shortest lookback period, and the win% on the few bets that you take.  Must be high if you only use a 12 unit bankroll.  Actually the win% only makes sense if i also know the % of the wheel  covered on the average bet.

Ichi, macd, ma plus 1osc.
Shortest - 3, longest - 32 for bacs, roulette 5 & 66

EC - br, bs and OE so just 1unit per bet. The small br means the win% has gotta be high else you'll hit margin call  easily

[Still]

Ichi, macd, ma plus 1osc. Shortest - 3, longest - 32.

EC - br, bs and OE so just 1unit per bet. The small br means the win% has gotta be high else you'll hit margin call  easily

Interesting.  Thanks.  Now back to our regularly scheduled VdW program. 

[Scarface]

I presume, you only bet if there is a worse case scenario to proof, that all bets and progressions will lose.

What about the many occasions you would win this way?
And if a bet of 63 units with a total risc of 120 units is to big for your bankroll: don´t play roulette at all!

The bank holds 100000 units to win over you. and you start with 10 units to beat them?
David vs. Goliath is a nice but very rare event to happen!

I don't need to break the casino.  Just leave with more money than I came in with.  Would I martingale from a $10 bet to a $630 bet in 5 spins?  Hell no!  And it isn't because I don't have the bankroll.  It's just a stupid bet.  5 losses on even bets happen frequently!  All experienced roulette players know this. 

[3Nine]

Ichi, macd, ma plus 1osc.
Shortest - 3, longest - 32 for bacs, roulette 5 & 66

EC - br, bs and OE so just 1unit per bet. The small br means the win% has gotta be high else you'll hit margin call  easily

I'm not familiar with the lingo but, just so I'm clear, are you referring to betting trends?   Thanks

[Still]

I'm not familiar with the lingo but, just so I'm clear, are you referring to betting trends?   Thanks

Ichi = Ichimoto
macd=moving average convergence divergence.
ma= moving average
osc= oscillator

Indicators generally "look back" some time period to predict what will happen next.

Margin call is a reference to a lost bankroll.

br, bs, OE = black/red  odd/even and I don't know what he means by "bs". 

Two basic ways to use indicators: go with the trend, or reversion to some mean. Inclusion of ma and macd suggests trend following but I don't know what he does.

[MoneyT101]

but I don't know what he does.

Only thing that stood out to me about what he does was 500 spins for less then 8 units   

[Still]

Only thing that stood out to me about what he does was 500 spins for less then 8 units   

I noted 3-5 bets per 500 spins = 40 units profit per month. Let's say he plays 20 days a month. That's 60-100 bets for 40 units, which is a win rate% of 75% on EC bets, if I'm not mistaken.  Less if playing more days.  Plenty if base unit is $100. Less than that it all depends on moving the wheel for free.