Edge...

[Malvador]

Just wondering what type of edge people have managed to achieve using non random methods...

Eg. 9% edge (including zero)
Or 12% excluding zero

That type of thing

[RouletteGhost]

I don't think an edge is possible unless the wheel is exploited

To say otherwise is foolish

[Malvador]

I don't think an edge is possible unless the wheel is exploited

To say otherwise is foolish

Thank you for you opinion RG, however it seems like rrbb and Priyanka to name just a few have found some non random principles that do give edge to some extent. So my question was aimed at people that believe they do have an edge.

Would like to know how much edge is possible using the principles discussed in random thoughts. If anyone has indeed created any sort of method that uses them.

[RouletteGhost]

I'm not saying good strategies don't exist

I'm just saying I don't think we can change the math

[nottophammer]

How it came to be. People have been trying to design systems to overcome house edge, beat a game with no memory and defy mathematicians since this game came to be.

WHILE 1000S of systems need random to deliver something within a certain number of spins to succeed. PATTERN BREAKER asks RANDOM to do something its not very good at people. DELIVER THE LAST PATTERN OF A THREE SPIN HI LO COMBINATION IMMEDIATELY AFTER ITS DELIVERED THE SECOND TO LAST.

THE RULES...

1, You write the 8 possible combinations of a 3 spin Hi lo pattern down like this
HHH
LLL
HLH
LHL
HHL
LLH
HLL
LHH

2, You now proceed to record spins for hi lo in rows of three. Every three spins will produce one of those 8 possible patterns, a repeat of one or a pattern with a zero. An average game takes 50-60 spins to complete. To speed turnover you can backtrack twenty spins for a max of THREE TIMES A SESSION.

3, You cross off  each of the 8 possible patterns as they are produced and write a number next to them. EVENTUALLY, there will be ONE PATTERN LEFT.

4, You IMMEDIATELY bet against that pattern using a three step progression 2,4,8=14pts risk.

5,If a zero hits while recording patterns, example

H0L You record it under your 8 non zero patterns. If a zero hits during betting you accept it as a losing spin and complete the progression. OPTIONAL, once you have won some profit say 50 units. To strengthen the method you can cover the ZERO. Using this progression, 3,1--7,1--15,1

6, The method requires 7 wins to match a losing progression. ITS POWER, is the ability to create winning streaks that average 40 in a row. I have 3 100plus streaks in my records. I've never lost twice in a row.

7, TO BE PLAYED LIVE OR AIRBALL not RNG. I will give money management examples if the interest is there. It ought to be, I turned 14 units into 680 in a month. If you hit a power streak you can go nuclear in profits. Then BANK and start again. So there it is PATTERN BREAKER...

is this not trying to gain an edge, did it succeed

[falkor2k15]

I tested it before and it failed

[nottophammer]

Thanks Mr F

[Malvador]

Thanks notto a very interesting read and a very well thought out system... I like this one a lot and might give it a try myself. TY for your reply. May I ask if this is the main strategy you use?

[RouletteGhost]

Notto may give that a go on my local airball casino that just opened

Just for shits and giggles. Thanks

[Madi]

Rg thats a big cheat machine. Usually 30 and 40sec/spin. Anyway give that a go. Good luck

[Madi]

Oh sorry. Posted in wrong place

[RouletteGhost]

Wanna talk pattern breaker?

I looked over zumma a lot

I've never really seen a double repeat of a dozen back to back

What I mean is seeing

1
1
2
2

Then again
1
1
2
2

That's very rare

[DoctorSudoku]

How it came to be. People have been trying to design systems to overcome house edge, beat a game with no memory and defy mathematicians since this game came to be.

WHILE 1000S of systems need random to deliver something within a certain number of spins to succeed. PATTERN BREAKER asks RANDOM to do something its not very good at people. DELIVER THE LAST PATTERN OF A THREE SPIN HI LO COMBINATION IMMEDIATELY AFTER ITS DELIVERED THE SECOND TO LAST.

THE RULES...

1, You write the 8 possible combinations of a 3 spin Hi lo pattern down like this
HHH
LLL
HLH
LHL
HHL
LLH
HLL
LHH

2, You now proceed to record spins for hi lo in rows of three. Every three spins will produce one of those 8 possible patterns, a repeat of one or a pattern with a zero. An average game takes 50-60 spins to complete. To speed turnover you can backtrack twenty spins for a max of THREE TIMES A SESSION.

3, You cross off  each of the 8 possible patterns as they are produced and write a number next to them. EVENTUALLY, there will be ONE PATTERN LEFT.

4, You IMMEDIATELY bet against that pattern using a three step progression 2,4,8=14pts risk.

5,If a zero hits while recording patterns, example

H0L You record it under your 8 non zero patterns. If a zero hits during betting you accept it as a losing spin and complete the progression. OPTIONAL, once you have won some profit say 50 units. To strengthen the method you can cover the ZERO. Using this progression, 3,1--7,1--15,1

6, The method requires 7 wins to match a losing progression. ITS POWER, is the ability to create winning streaks that average 40 in a row. I have 3 100plus streaks in my records. I've never lost twice in a row.

7, TO BE PLAYED LIVE OR AIRBALL not RNG. I will give money management examples if the interest is there. It ought to be, I turned 14 units into 680 in a month. If you hit a power streak you can go nuclear in profits. Then BANK and start again. So there it is PATTERN BREAKER...

is this not trying to gain an edge, did it succeed

notto,

Isn't this essentially John Legend's Pattern Breaker that you have posted here?

As I have said before, we have to give credit where credit is due.

[DoctorSudoku]

notto,

Isn't this essentially John Legend's Pattern Breaker that you have posted here?

As I have said before, we have to give credit where credit is due.

Here is the Pattern Breaker page:

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.0

Strangely, notto just copied and pasted it here without mentioning John Legend's name.

Give credit where credit is due.

[stringbeanpc]

7, TO BE PLAYED LIVE OR AIRBALL not RNG. I will give money management examples if the interest is there. It ought to be, I turned 14 units into 680 in a month. If you hit a power streak you can go nuclear in profits. Then BANK and start again. So there it is PATTERN BREAKER...

nottophammer,

From my perspective what you describe is an "Event". Priyanka and Kimo Li both talked about the importance of events in the last few weeks.

I am interested to see your money management examples.