RVR OB1

[bleep24]

Hi,
Thanks for the posting.  I do not think that there is actually a right way or a wrong way.  If it loses it was the wrong way!!!!!     Yes, most losses that I have seen is 6 consecutively.   I have played progs:    1 2 4 8 then stay on 8 until back ahead.  Also 11111  22222 etc. and +1/-1 both up on a loss and down on a loss and have done ok, but it is still luck of the draw (spin) and sometimes one prog. works well and next time you use it it doesn`t.  I only play `live`   Have had my fingers burnt on RNG etc. in the past and from my experience is it ok for short and occasional sessions. `Live` is slower but safer in my opinion. 

Good luck,  regards,  Brian

(I will be keeping on playing this one as it is better than a lot of other systems/methods)

[sturrock]

Cheers Brian 

[hexfex82]

Hello Brian,
I played it yesterday and today with quite a success. What I can't handle at the moment is the following.
I start with D1 and D3. Which takes 2 unites until lose. Had 15 wins in a row with it... If I lose I will bet at Odd but just 1 unit? Then I'm at -. So I should play at least with 2 units to be equal, correct?
You mentioned now you played also 1,2,4 and 8 until in Plus. Example:
D1 and D3 - 1 Unit each if lost
Odd - 2 units if lost
Even - 4 units if lost
Red - 8 units if lost?
D2 and D3 - 8 units each, correct? If win?
Start again with D1 and D3 with 8 Units because I'm not in plus...
Is my assumption correct?
Thank you
Hex

[bleep24]

Hello Hex,

Yes you are correct.  Getting 15 wins in a row is not unusual.  I have had 20 several times.  With that progression you are not talking massive stakes and because we are on 50/50 or better chances it should come good.  I have seen out of 9 lose 6 but I have also seen win all 9 opps. too     If you are risk averse staking 11111  22222 etc. is better but you will win less.  You pays ya money and takes ya choice as they say.  Using 11111 etc. are you just counting net loss before increasing stake? 

Good luck,
Brian

[probasah]

When you will get the sequence 2EOB1L3HR, then what?

This is Martingale in sheep's clothes. Why post such a system? It will lose in the long run..

Regards,
Alex

[bleep24]

Hi Probasah,

True, but all systems/methods will lose in the long term.  The question is:  how long is the long term?      Yes that sequence will come out sometime, but when.  Will I be playing/betting when it does?     Have I been playing/winning for 6 months before it does?   

Some systems/methods are much/a lot/ better than others and this one I feel is a better one.

I take it from your post that you have a sooper-dooper winning system and I look forward to reading it.

It is far to easy to criticize and too many members rush in but they do not input any positive comments.
Someone famous said: Do not bring me problems, only solutions.
If the HG existed it would have been found by now so it has not so we have to use the next best thing.
Regards,   Brian

[hexfex82]

Hello Brian,
you mean I should play with 11111, 22222 like this?

D1 and D3 with 1 unit - if lost - 2
ODD with 1 unit - if lost - 3
EVEN with 1 unit - if lost - 4
RED with 1 unit - if lost - 5 now is should increase to 2 units
D2 and D3 with 2 Unit each - if I lose stil go on with 2 until minus 10, correct? If I win I go back and start with D1 and D3 with 1 unit besides I'm minus 3??
The 11111 and 2222 is clear for me but if 2 dozen are involved I'm a little bit lost.

Thanks
Hex

[bleep24]

Hi Hex,
Not quite. You are 90% right but when betting 2 units if you have not recovered stay on 2 and only go back to 1 unit when you have done so.  You may have to go up to 3 units before you recover and once you have recovered only then you can return to 1 unit.

Good luck,  Brian

[probasah]

Hi Probasah,

True, but all systems/methods will lose in the long term.  The question is:  how long is the long term?      Yes that sequence will come out sometime, but when.  Will I be playing/betting when it does?     Have I been playing/winning for 6 months before it does?   

Some systems/methods are much/a lot/ better than others and this one I feel is a better one.

I take it from your post that you have a sooper-dooper winning system and I look forward to reading it.

It is far to easy to criticize and too many members rush in but they do not input any positive comments.
Someone famous said: Do not bring me problems, only solutions.
If the HG existed it would have been found by now so it has not so we have to use the next best thing.
Regards,   Brian

Hi bleep24

It was not my intent to upset you or anyone else. If it was the case, i apologize. Thing is I have been coding for more than 10 years now, with the most complicated patterns you can imagine. This can be a tedious task but i do it for fun, just like some people love playing chess. I exercise my mind.
I can tell you for sure that all patterns fail, especially if the bet selection is as rigid as this one.
You win 100 sessions of say, +1 (total =100+) and then the random kicks in and you get a session of -1000.
Its not a IF, its a when.
Sure there are ways to deal with this.

I think the way forward is :
-bet inside numbers only
-chase repeaters
-restrict the number of spins to a finite number ( e.g. lets take 200 spins. What is the minimum amount of EC showing up in 200 spins? How many repeaters should you get in 200 spins, blabla bla)
forget about the outside bets or the wheel layout you can make your own EC, dozens etc with any numbers
-use flat bet or a mild progression that DOES NOT recover all loses in one bet
-statistics analyzer to get the betting windows
- series vs singles ( series=singles, always)
- think in LW registry

That is a guesstimate only, do not take my word for it.
I can code this system for you, but the graph will look like the other 99.999% systems shared in the open forums.

Regards,
Alex

[bleep24]

Hi all,

The conundrum is?   How long is a piece of string?    Answer:   Twice as long as half its length.   Easy peasy. 

With systems/methods/even progressions there are usually no hard and fast rules and players have to adapt/play them to suit themselves so when I read something on here I try to work out what best suits me.    BR/stakes/losses/win rate/ease of playing all have to be taken into account which is what I do (and why I discard many ideas - eventually)

Good luck all,  Brian

[bleep24]

Hi Probasah,

No, you certainly did not upset me.   Good luck with all your testings. I agree with you that ideally
flat betting or mild progression and not recovering all losses in one go is best.

Unfortunately no matter how much you test and come up with reams of statistics (probabilities?) this is roulette so something will happen (or not) but when?

Let me know when you have perfected your ideas!!!!
Regards,  Brian
(I like repeaters too)

[bleep24]

Hi Hex,
Yes, the 2 dozens bets do complicate it a bit  but I do not think that we need to worry too much about them as long as we are generally moving forward overall BR wise, so just put on them what you feel.

As with all systems/methods there are countless possibilities.   Differential betting.   Using a stop loss.  All the different progressions available etc. etc.
Our great advantage with this system is overall we will win 50%+ of bets.
I have never used +!/-1 progression on this but I feel that it could work and will give it a try.  (Possibly in reverse?   -1 on a loss/+1 on a win)  No idea.

Am I over egging the pudding.
Original posting of this system was using Marty (and claimed never lost and not going past 7 consec. losses)  Lucky or what?!?!?!
Good luck, Brian

[sturrock]

Question for Sugtips
How do you play this Like Bleep24 Stay on the same bet until a win or like me move along to the next bet win or loose.
Both seem to be working well
Cheers Dave 

[bleep24]

I think you mean stay on same bet until lose.   As usual with most systems there are several ways (tweaks) of playing them and do what works for you.

[bleep24]

This is working for me.    I am just working out which is best prog. to use and if 9 misses come how to handle it (stop playing/write it off etc) and what the stop loss needs to be.  I think that I will have won quite a bit before a big loss.