Pattern recognition, sequences in random numbers.

[MoneyT101]

I agree 

So this can also help with random streams like rng which arent truly random hmmm

Chance very interesting, please continue 

[Chance]

Visiting a card roulette table i saw these numbers and chuckled. The dealer asked me how i was doing what i was doing, i laughed again (sure i could explain it in 3 minutes)

20
12
17
8
32
11
33
33
35
14
32
9
16
25
7
28
23
24
00
12
20
33
22

They look entirely random right.......here is what they actually look after the alg.

1
1
1
2
3
3
3
2
3
2
1
1
3
1
1
1
1
1
It does not take a rocket scientist to be able to guess how to play these "random numbers". Now, the obvious question is, "well, they're not all that simple so what do you do"? Find the ones that are, and if they are not learn the rhythm. Everything has a rythm. Not to get destracted but as a hobby i even applied this to the rock distribution from photos sent back from mars by Curiosity to find ancient river anomalies. But its more than sequences like the ones above.

[plolp]

 Does the algorithm give this?

1     x
1    x      1
1    x      1
2     x     2
3    x      3
3     x     3
3    x      3
2    x       2
3    x       2
2             2
1    x       1
1   x        3
3            1
1    x        2
1    x        3
1    x        3
1    x        3
1              3

[Chance]

20     3x
12     1x
17     3x1
8       1x1
32     3x1
11     3x2
33     2x
33     2x3
35     2x3
14     2x3
32     3x2
9       3x3
16     2x2
25     1x1
7       3x1
28     3x3
23     2x1
24     4
00 always win on green
12     1   1
20     3   1
33     2   1
22     4   1

Next, How to start the game. Its the most risky part.

[Chance]

Let me explain 3 things quickly before we get into an actual game. Once you begin to understand about fractals you see how primordial they are, affecting everything. This is the problem why they have not received attention, people do  not know how to work with something so large. Case in point rngs. Rngs still use seeds, and cosmic noise from gamma radiation, static or unrelated sources. Why, because it is not understood. If you can graph a random stream  then you can also make a random stream that follows the rules of fractals, but i have yet to see one. They are easy to do.

Zooming in and out. What we have discussed so far is zoomed all the way in, seeing groups or, wow look at all those repeats so lets bet on repeats.......fail, unless you are playing on an etreemly biased machine, and they are hard to find.  Take the sections of the last post.

3
1
3
1
3
3
2
2
2
2
3
3
2
1
3

Now just the conditioned stream

1
1
1
2
3
3
3
2
3
2
1
1
3
1
1
1
1
1

If we zoom out we see not only are there large groups of 1s and 3s (something that should only happen  at set intervals of  4^n ) look also at what numbers follow what numbers are followed by what numbers and zoom out and see what groups are followed by what groups for instance(zoom out just a bir) a 3 should be followed by a 1,2,3 and 4 equally all the time a group of three 4s should be followed  a sinlgle 4 times (ok its not quite 4 times exactly because of the 0 and 00) as often as double and a double four times as often as a triple a triple four times as oftem as a quad etc. But, don't get stuck looking at only runs, they are not any more special than the number 1,4 3,4 (zoom out a bit) look back on your sheet and see the what was the numbers that  showed after the last time you saw a 1,4,3,4  the last time should of been a 1,2,3,4 equally. If you are playing a really random wheel and see a that for the last 7 groupings a 1,2 is always followed by a 1 start placing small wagers at first against that sequence from continuing. I have come up with a way of producing a number that tells me how far "out of random" a wheel is. This is important to justify bet placement, and crucial in mapping other areas of randomness or pseudo random ness.

How to place bets with the active stream.

20    3
12     1
17     3
8       1
32     3
11     3
33     2
33     2
Let say i jump in here on a no brainer wheel that i know will repeat a conditioned stream  (zoomed all the way in)with regularity way above normal odds. So i want to place a bet that sec 2 wii repeat. Tell me what 9 numbers i should bet on? (Sorry for this infantile test/question but i want to see if your understanding what i have written so far.

[Herby]

21
33
16
4
23   sec 2
35
14
2

and 6 (without knowing the 00 wheel) 

[AegonTheHandsome]

why you would bet on that? i dont understand this post :S pls help

[Chance]

Be sure to run the alg first.

20     3 x
12     1 x
17     3 x 1
8       1    1
32     3 x 1
11     3    2
33     2 x
33     2    3



So we are really expecting the 3rd position to coninue which in this case is sector 2. The position is not always the same as the sector. The numbers for sector 2 are....i usually use

12
14
16
18
20
30
32
34
36
0
00

[Chance]

I think i said the sectors wrong.....anyway here is the actual sheet from the game.

Big tip.
Remember when you play.....set in your mind how much you are going to play with, leave all cards and wallet in the car or at home. Set your limit. And, most importantly when you sit down to play convince yourself you are playing with numbers. Just numbers. If it is no longer a gam e or numbers, do not play.

[Chance]

Questions so far, or is this basic to most?

[plolp]

(Sorry for this infantile test/question but i want to see if your understanding what i have written so far.

I do not believe you. You never answer questions.

There's a lot of error in what you're saying.
You have to reread before posting .

[Chance]

Sorry, i missed your question, can you tell me again?

[Chance]

AegonTheHandsome, sorry skipped your question tried to answer in the next three posts. Is it clear or need to go over it again. I was betting on that the wheel was going to repeat because i saw it had a fatal flaw the day before. The numbers looked random but they were not landing in a random order, when i ran the alg it was obvious, but only after the alg was ran could i really make out their pattern/sequence.  Sorry for not catching your question.

[Chance]

Remember the page 1 dice example, ill use this to say what i would bet next.

5
3
2
4
1
6
2
4
2
4
3
1
4
3
5
Run the alg

5x
3x
2x
4x
1x
6
2x3
4x3
2  5
4x5
3x2
1  2
4  4
3  4
5  1

Now if we bet this will continue with the numbers of the alg we would bet on a 1, we look for the first position without an x and see to the left is a 6 so we bet on a 6.

[Drazen]

Chance can you please give one quick example with Euro wheel and its sectors and how would you play one set of spins there?  I think most of us would play that one. I am a bit lost with the ones on US wheel 

Just to get a better understanding.

Thanks in advance

Drazen