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Pattern recognition, sequences in random numbers.

Started by Chance, Jun 04, 11:34 AM 2017

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Chance


Chance

First split the wheel into 4 sections like this.

12
14
16
18
21
23
32
34
36
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2
6
10
11
15
29
31
33
35
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1
3
5
7
9
19
25
27
30
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4
8
13
17
20
22
24
26
28
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0

Next someone make up some numbers and we will graph them as if they are actually happening.

AegonTheHandsome

Here are some numbers from a live roulette (european)
24
28
20
31
30
19
22
14
2
20
25
2
24
14
27
30
14
36
8
25
9
23
25
17
29
22
10
1
25
2
5
30
34
34
13
22
6
24
27

Proofreaders2000

Hello Chance thanks for taking the time to explain :d

I think I understand the dice example (in terms of an American Roulette Wheel)

L1-6, L7-12, L13-18, L19-24, L25-30, L31-36

12,36,1,23,30,15 (all lines have shown at this point)

6,31,4,20,27,9 (newest spin-value)*Second list*

Bet three units on all natural lines except L13-18 once (which has not shown in the second list)
& 1 chip on 0 & 00 each

Win +1, Loss -20 units

Chance

Just a sec proofreaders2000 let me get to AegonTheHandsome,

From the stream you gave me.


Step 1
#   sec   alg
24   4 x               
28   4      1

Step 2
#   sec   alg
24   4 x               
28   4      1
10   2 x
31   2      2

Step 3
#   sec   alg
24   4 x               
28   4      1
10   2 x
31   2      2
30   3 x
19   3      3

Step 4
#   sec   alg
24   4 x               
28   4 x   1
10   2 x
31   2      2
30   3 x
19   3      3
22   4      1

Etc...

Chance

Proofreaders2000,

Yes i think that is the jist, its weird translating the dice to roulette lines. See if the previous post explains better.  I will say the prev post is very random. I would probably go to another table, or use the math highly and guess fractals, the ones that have shown runs and groupings. Sleepers hot numbers are nothing more than fractals, the anomolies over time will correct themselves. When you write the list from the prev post you not only look to see runs but, what numbers are followed by what numbers, how long are the runs, what numbers lead into and out of the runs, frequency and spacing of 1s 2s 3s 4s , you had a run of 4 4s last a run of 3 4s before that  and  2  4s before that  now you just hit a 4 will it repeat or turn into a single....odds are high it will be a single low it will be a higher run, repeat numbers and 0 and 00 are all calculated with freq. You have to keep all these graphs active in your mind when you play. There are others i play also,  for instance you can make tic marks on your sheet by your winning numbers which are fractals also......more later of actual play by play games.

Chance

Just wanted to give a small test, and the test also proves a good point about rngs, seeds......so archaic. This rng is from a well known site i will not say which one. I asked for a certain number of randoms. Well, up untill now we could not test randomness easily. They fail horribly.

Who wants to run these numbers with the alg. It is a short run but the absurdity goes on and on so i stopped it short. Don't forget we are testing if the random numbers are placed in a random order.....so is it possible this rng is used in online casinos, or worse as seeds for secure fobs, or encryption. Please no!

2
4
2
0
1
2
3
1
4
3
1
0
4
1
3
0
2
4
1
3
0
2
4
1
3
1
3
1
3
1
3
1
Please tell me our universities are smarter than this. No im not talking about the run of 1s and 3s at the end. I should publish their site so they would be shamed to change.

Okay sorry for the rant....next real game play

maestro

what is so strange about 1 and 3...in any roulette you will see runs of dozens like....1,2,1,2,3,3,1,2,1,2...so what are you telling us this is not random or what...so far we have not seen any example with roulette numbers and why what and when bets are placed....and most important thing i think is when you pace bets do you hope for something to happen or it must happen...because if you go to first one your fractals are not any better than probability pulling next random number and therefore impacting your so called algorithm
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Chance

Maestro, sorry if the last post bothered you I was not trying to do that. I am moving slow because i am trying to prove a point and teach how to play by fractals, biased rngs, and frequencies. Most people look at the stream in the previous post and see 4 numbers there are 5, big deal, no it changes the math and play it can make you lose or win. Most will see the stream and think so what there is a long stream of 1s and 3s they dont see the biggest problem. It is not a random stream and why! The alg they use is flawed that gave me the supposedly random numbers! Im trying to get people to understand why, exploit it to give you an advantage when you play. I have other alg but this first one so stupidly simple can be a big boost to your game.  Sorry i am moving too slow my sarcasm was not directed at you. Now, what do you see in the stream of 5 numbers 0-4.

Drazen

Quote from: Chance on Jun 07, 06:31 PM 2017
First split the wheel into 4 sections like this.

12
14
16
18
21
23
32
34
36
------
2
6
10
11
15
29
31
33
35
------
1
3
5
7
9
19
25
27
30
------
4
8
13
17
20
22
24
26
28
------
0

Next someone make up some numbers and we will graph them as if they are actually happening.

Thanks Chance

Hm.. Interesting how you chose sectors here.

But does it even matter?

Would it be the same if we would take for example 9 number sectors as they are arranged on the wheel?

And as you gave example with dice on the start, would it be the same if we take lines on the carpet?

My algorithm for above questions would gave:

No
Yes
Yes

:)

Correct?

Cheers

plolp

Quote from: Chance on Jun 08, 02:20 PM 2017Now, what do you see in the stream of 5 numbers 0-4.

I see the series "41302"
two times in a row .
And "413" three times.
and 9 spins of alternations "1-3"

Chance

I split it up like that so each slot left and right of where the ball lands would have a different sector.The way you are talking is better to see if the wheel itself is biased. When pkaying against rngs you do not have to split up the wheel at all.

Chance

Run the alg plolp you will laugh. I only included a short run of the overall numbers they gave me, but it is the same with the whole stream. You will se why i was with my mouth open.

plolp

1
3
4
2
5
3
1
3
3
1
2
3
2
2
1
2
3
3
1
3
1
3
2
5
5
5
5
5
5        is it correct?

Chance

1
2
3
1
3
3
1
2
3
2
2
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
4
4
4
4
4
4

And the rest of the stream is just as bad. See, this is why i am going slow. This is from an actual very well used rng on the web. If you can spot biased machines that appear random you will win at any random game.

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