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Lets try again

Started by rrbb, Jun 18, 05:33 AM 2017

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MoneyT101

sucks to be away for a couple hrs and come back to this BS!

rrbb, some of us have been looking forward to posting again. Is it possible to continue and ignore some ppl or block....maybe we can move the convo to someones non random forum.

Btw about the topic.  If label dozens as hit and unhit.   It becomes an EC!
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

Quote from: Nickmsi on Jun 19, 02:09 PM 2017
OK, rrbb, I hear you.

Attached is an excel sheet that shows the Hits, Unhits and repeats in a 37 spin cycle.

Simple press Function Key F9 for another set of RNG spins.

Any ideas anyone has about expanding this sheet to see if we can find a constant bet, just shout out and I will be glad to re-code and try.

Cheers

Nick

Nick, can you adjust the sheet to make it look like an EC?

Hit or Unhit....H and U example

H
H
U
H
U
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Nickmsi

Notto mentioned several times to keep in mind the averages.

I added an Expected Repeat to this sheet.  It compares what the Expected Repeat is to the Actual Repeat and shows the Variance (Repeat Variance).

Now you can play around and see what happens at different Variances.  For example, I did 100 sessions (press F9 for 100 times and write down the results each time) for a Variance of -10.

What it shows is that 82% of the time a Repeat occurs within the first 3 spins.

See if there is something better.

Hi Mel, this sheet is for Straight Numbers so I don't get what you want with the Dozens or EC. Can you explain further?

Thanks

Nick
Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

MoneyT101

The example rrbb gave was with dozens...

Quote from: rrbb on Jun 19, 12:56 PM 2017

e.g. dozen (just to illustrate)
unhit 1,2,3   hit: none  roulette: 1
unhit    2,3   hit: 1       roulette: 2
unhit      ,3   hit: 1,2    roulette: 2
unhit    2,3   hit: 1       ...



If you follow the same rules but just track Hits vs Unhits...the dozens becomes an EC

its either a Hit or Unhit!

Understanding of smaller groups might help implement something for larger groups

Looking at straights from the beginning will not let us see the picture because we dont know what we are looking for.  Smaller groups should be easier.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Still

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Jun 19, 03:00 PM 2017
sucks to be away for a couple hrs and come back to this BS!

rrbb, some of us have been looking forward to posting again. Is it possible to continue and ignore some ppl or block....maybe we can move the convo to someones non random forum.

Btw about the topic.  If label dozens as hit and unhit.   It becomes an EC!

That's a good idea. Another idea is people can PM rrbb and get one on one coaching on how to think about roulette differently.

nottophammer

Quote from: Nickmsi on Jun 19, 03:28 PM 2017What it shows is that 82% of the time a Repeat occurs within the first 3 spins.
Hi nick higher level maths here to me, but a question. In topic Are there really 37 possible outcomes? reply 44 is the info the same 2 unique happened  3210, as the repeat happened at spin 3, is it 82%, just nice to see the maths working side by side or do they differ.
Thanks.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Of 165 daily games i have had 11 games with a repeat in 1st 3 spins, looks a bit out
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Nickmsi

Hi Notto,

The 82% win ratio only pertains to betting when the Repeat Variance was -10.  Your system does not use the Repeat Variance so your results will not match.

To give an example, if at Spin 16, the Expected number of repeats is 5 but the actual repeats is only 1, then that is a Repeat Variance of -10 and if we bet all the numbers that have hit, we would expect to win 82% of the time within the next 3 spins.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Nick

Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

praline

Quote from: Still on Jun 19, 03:48 PM 2017Another idea is people can PM rrbb and get one on one coaching on how to think about roulette differently.
No, they can't.
Thank you, again!
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

Nickmsi

The attached sheet is my interpretation of what Dozens Hits and Unhits would look like.

This is one way and I am sure there are others.

See what you think.

Nick
Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

MoneyT101

Quote from: Nickmsi on Jun 19, 11:19 PM 2017
The attached sheet is my interpretation of what Dozens Hits and Unhits would look like.

This is one way and I am sure there are others.

See what you think.

Nick

Ok i will look now....i will also do 20 spins manually so you can see what i mean
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

Hey nick check it out

I only did 21 spins and i did it manually but you should get the idea.

link:s://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KnOmoJ1PprXTQkr5qzluvl9DJBhV_Nn-mQNGEG0mTCs/edit?usp=sharing

Hits 9
unhits 9

so it was even
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Nickmsi

Thanks Mel,

Attached is the process of Dozens in Hit and Unhits.

Kindly F9 this sheet and see if anyone has any ideas on how we can use the process or any other process.

Cheers

Nick
Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

nottophammer

Quote from: Nickmsi on Jun 19, 04:55 PM 2017
Hi Notto,

The 82% win ratio only pertains to betting when the Repeat Variance was -10.  Your system does not use the Repeat Variance so your results will not match.

To give an example, if at Spin 16, the Expected number of repeats is 5 but the actual repeats is only 1, then that is a Repeat Variance of -10 and if we bet all the numbers that have hit, we would expect to win 82% of the time within the next 3 spins.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Nick
Thanks Nick  :thumbsup:
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

MoneyT101

Quote from: Nickmsi on Jun 20, 11:19 AM 2017
Thanks Mel,

Attached is the process of Dozens in Hit and Unhits.

Kindly F9 this sheet and see if anyone has any ideas on how we can use the process or any other process.

Cheers

Nick

Ill take a look in a few.....I will disable the manual sheet i made since nick posted an updated sheet.  I apologize if anyon didnt get a chance to see it.  Ill post a screenshot of it later  :thumbsup:
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

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