Turbo Denzie or is it Denzie Turbo

[Madi]

It starts with repeat and finish with hot.trying to catch first repeat can be expensive. I would suggest strat after 10th.

[nottophammer]

Thanks Madi, bet steve hoped no one replied then i'd not be here.

So today its 8/10 repeat came on spin 4, +30
so it's down to individual choice me thinks.

[nottophammer]

Mort today


So openning 10 spins 76% chance of not beinging 10/10, so if start from spin 1, does it win?



-9, but #6 is now classed hot so do we up to 5 or the steady 2 units

[Moxy]

Regarding the probability vs odds videos, it's a long way of explaining a simple concept. The payouts never change.

The odds of a ball landing on a specific number are actually 100%, not 1 in 37. That's because the ball landed where it did because of the variables like rotor speed and many other variables.

If you had all the variables you could correctly predict the winning number 100% of the time. In reality there are too many variables for us to calculate, at least to be 100% accurate. So instead we take some shortcuts and consider the major variables. And this is all we need to have enough accuracy to overcome a slight -2.7% house edge.  A 5% edge is very easy with roulette computers. 30-80% is common. Sometimes you get over 120%.

Beating roulette is not impossible. Many people say it's totally impossible. But actually it's ridiculously easy once you know what you're doing. The problem isnt beating wheels. It's avoiding detection.

There are more than one ways of beating roulette. You don't need a roulette computer. I've suggested numerous ways to explore. The typical systems don't work because they don't at all change the odds. The odds of winning on the next spin are the same for the player. For 1 number, always 1 in 37 (Eu wheel). Use progression, fancy bet selection like repeaters.... but still you wont change the odds.

Progression is no different to a bunch of different sized bets from different people. Overall the group of players still lose. And you think one player doing the same bets makes a difference?

You can lay on your back with your legs in the air and run your arse off. You wont get anywhere despite your effort. Put your feet on the ground and the result is different. Most system players have their feet in the air, clueless to why their systems eventually fail. and they are convinced with their new system they finally "got it", until they do more testing. And you can be sure millions of others have tested almost an identical system, with varied results. Varied because the result just depends on what spins you get at the time - not the actual effectiveness of the system.

I'm not trying to push advantage play like computers or VB. I'm just saying focus on bet selection and actually changing the odds. Unless you change your odds, they stay at 1 in 37, and you wont beat the unfair payout. It's impossible. It's like transferring water between two cups of equal size, in extreme heat while the water evaporates....  while you wait for one cup to overflow. It wont happen unless you actually add more water. Its a dumb analogy but there have been even clearer ones, which arent understood anyway.

I dont agree that players dont have the means to find out the truth. They often have it rammed down their throats. It is willfully ignored. I think they are often lazy or are just looking for some magical way that requires no thought or effort at the table. I was like that before too.

I'm all for an easier way. But at least try something NEW. That's why I created the "outside the box" area: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?board=104.0

And my suggestions for new things are at link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19212.0

Only for the right price e.g. free to 100k, I presume.

[nottophammer]

Arm - Shanks more to check
Look at checkpoint, +2 non-hit at spin 40 and 31 at 60, always spot on or very close to the avg.
The repeat came in spins 1-10 just to late, but #4 did the job, just look it came again

[nottophammer]

thought i'd let shanks get back from watching the yid army.
+90 be enough and another #4 not far.

[ArmitageShanks]

   Frustrating to say the least!
Got a lot of catching up to do and i'll get my roulette head on after match of the day.

[ArmitageShanks]

I would have stopped on spin 13 and gone and done something else or played a different method for a while and then started again. I now always stop on first profit as im wary of having to go to high with a progression even though i think with a big enough BR it would recover and has done on Parx(i know monopoly money) and other tests with really spins. I only raise the progression once i get a hit and try and keep the amount of numbers bet on as low as possible as posted by Turbo on GF. I did use to wait for a repeat before betting but have started betting from the off as your info shows you get a lot of early wins in that first 10

[nottophammer]

enlarge the checkpoint box, there is the usual, 9/10 repeat came, at a good point, so 9+ the 15 non-hit from remaining 28 we expect at spin 40, 9+15=24 and the usual 30 at spin 60.

Mr Taotie, remaining 9,8,7,6,5 

[nottophammer]

Well using 1,2,3,4 etc gets there

[nottophammer]

This in the ADD topic.
Shanks should we stop a # when hit 3 times? This is FOBT, in 2 bookies theres a roulette that gives the 5 hot and 5 cold plus zero, well i'd been better to played TD/DT, +272 against break even
In spins 11-20 i was +17, if TD/DT would been +26 spins 1-10, look at the groups of 10's 76% chance of repeat in 10 spins

[ArmitageShanks]

Hay Notts,
The way i mostly play i stop at first profit (often in the first 10 spins  ) reset and go again but if needed id always go for 3 to 4.

[nottophammer]

Shanks had these hour ago on MPR, i'll let you decide if you trust the spins there.
Now with Mortagons games, it always seems to come good, so decided to carry on as these spins are supposed to be from live wheel.

[nottophammer]

Same spins just show how the non-hit came using the old +1/-1, checkpoints meet the averages at spin 40 and 60

[denzie]

Notto....My apologies if this comes over bad but....

We all see you post many stuff and sheets....ktf...wtf...last 9 nonhit...GUT. ..Etc. ..

Im Not sure but I think most members have this question for you :

What is it that you play ? I mean you walk in those shops and just pick any method you feel like or what's going on ?