Turbo Denzie or is it Denzie Turbo

[nottophammer]

wow 12 hrs go by, you have been busy, only readTurner reply, so why the fuck are you lot still on here if you believe you can't beat roulette.
Maths gunna get ya LOL.
Leave you all to it 

[Turner]

wow 12 hrs go by, you have been busy, only readTurner reply, so why the f*** are you lot still on here if you believe you can't beat roulette.
Maths gunna get ya LOL.
Leave you all to it 

for me its a case of "keep your friends close" (yourself and your systems) "and your enemies even closer" (the casino, the maths, the unfair payout)

[nottophammer]

just picked up morts #'s all win KTF,T/D  carry on looking at the outside bets, 

[Steve]

Notto its not that roulette cant be beaten. Its that you cant  do it without changing the odds. Debating that is just not understanding primary school math.

Ignoring the math is ignoring reality. Again math is not a view or opinion. I don't think you'll ever get it at this rate. Nobody cares how anyone plays. If you are winning your way, just keep doing it. Go ahead, jizz on me.

[maestro]

Why show winning punters the door since their winnings are merely on hold ? Hey, if the house refuse to continue do business with them then the house has acknowledged to take a loss. Hey the house take a loss, that's unthinkable with roulette right ?

And there's the refusal to pay winnings and in some cases the deposit as well, I'm referring to so-called reputable online casino ? Why do that when eventually this 'hold' winnings/profits will return to the fold and much more, right ?

Hey pitboss, why do you guys do all that for ?

i like it

[cht]

I heard those computer things are scams. There's no way on Earth you can predict where the ball will bounce. All random.

If that's the case why this blanket ban the use of those mobile computers, they will lose right ? Contradiction ?

Beating roulette is not impossible. Many people say it's totally impossible. But actually it's ridiculously easy once you know what you're doing. The problem isnt beating wheels. It's avoiding detection.

There are more than one ways of beating roulette. You don't need a roulette computer.

Good to know that you hold this belief that the roulette game is beatable.

You said "it's ridiculously easy", I don't quite agree with this. If your statement refer to the practical part of tracking the spins, laying the chips on the felt then I do concur that it's not difficult but rather boring.

The design and details of the method/strategy/system/whatever is not easy, definitely not.

I have always alluded to the fact that VB, AP and roulette physics computers are not the only way.

I've tracked dublinbet spins for a while and the final test is to play with real money. I deposited a small 50euros as test and without changing the stakes at all, The balance now stands at 207euros(approx. quadruple the initial deposit) after 1200 spins(3days) in line with my expectation. No more online play but this play will be done at the local b&m with minimal restriction there. The withdrawal will be made later today, I hope there's no hiccup, this I'm not sure of.

The point I make is there's a lot of claims made about VB, AP, roulette computers this and that but there's zero proof of actual real money performance except a lot of cryptic claims.

There's also lots of claims from system players but there's zero proof as well.

Do I believe any of that ? Should anyone ?

I believe my account balance and I believe my chips stack, that's what I believe.(You don't expect me to post a pic of my account as proof, right ?)

As to the questions I posed in my earlier post above, the contradiction is glaring. I truly wish what you guys say on forums hold true that there're no mechanical method that beat roulette and that you're the pitbosses that allow me to freely play the roulette game with my mobile indefinitely.

[nottophammer]

Notto its not that roulette cant be beaten. Its that you cant  do it without changing the odds. Debating that is just not understanding primary school math.

Ignoring the math is ignoring reality. Again math is not a view or opinion. I don't think you'll ever get it at this rate. Nobody cares how anyone plays. If you are winning your way, just keep doing it. Go ahead, jizz on me.

Steve i know what you spout, but the Fobt plays to LOTT, end of, but what helps is countback.
If math says you can't beat it,then why you still here

[nottophammer]

steve Mort today

so it got 16 in spins 11-40 well aint that 15.8 rounded up, but i prefer to just drop the point.
60 spins theres the 30 what is avg for 60 spins 30.5
Back to you steve

[nottophammer]

steve the +10 is wrong but me no excel and pri said try something, but could not change, but it don't matter as i know what it means and thats the only person that needs to know

Now i'm finished crossing swords on this avg, if you don't get fine, but i do and thats the bit that matters

[RouletteGhost]

I think cht doesn't understand the physics end of it

Scientists and universities have beaten roulette.

Release point, and speed

Cht doesn't know science.

[RouletteGhost]

link:s://:.google.com/amp/s/:.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/05/23/how-physicists-used-science-to-beat-the-odds-at-roulette/amp/

[cht]

I think cht doesn't understand the physics end of it

Scientists and universities have beaten roulette.

Release point, and speed

Cht doesn't know science.

It doesn't matter what I know or doesn't know, assumption and speculation. And cht has no value or interest to anyone.

Stick to the core of the subject matter.

Simple question question -

Do you think anyone on forums who claim they beat roulette with VB, AP and physics computer are for real ?

Have you seen any real live proof done at the casino ?

Assume you have not, then do explain what then molds your belief that such and such claim is true.

Then again I'm not even interested in that, what I'm truly interested in is this misguided claim that those are the only means to beat roulette. If that were true then handphone computers that do not measure the physical attributes of the wheel and ball..... should not be banned. The betting window before the ball is spun should not be short or shortened. But we all know that's not the case.

[RouletteGhost]

I don't believe people do it here

But I know it's science and can be done.

[cht]

I don't believe people do it here

But I know it's science and can be done.

RG, we are on the same page now. I agree totally. Not just here but on every other forum.

RG, can I engage you and everyone else to share your views why you think -

1. Handphones are banned in some jurisdiction

2. For online live casino, the betting window is short and at times abruptly shortened to below 10-15seconds

3. Customers are disconnected(of some form) when they are inactive for a number of spins

4. Some winning customers are refused play at their casino

[Steve]

Really its not so amazing. I have days worth of video of my computers beating roulette in real casinos. But i only publish videos like my public demos. And besides anyone can test them free. If you really want answers about them, it's not hard. Read the sites in my signature.

And again I'm not saying they are the only way to win.

Also the Forbes article is good but the writer had no expertise or experience, and some info is inaccurate. Again its not hard to see for yourself