What should the time between spins be? (multiplayer game)

[Steve]

This is to determine best time between spins for the multiplayer game at :.rouletteplayers.org/register

[Taotie]

Where's the 4 second option? 

This poll is not a bad idea, but I think just about all the votes for the shortest spin time will come from bot players like madi.

Maybe the vote should somehow be split between humans and bots?

[Steve]

I can see who votes, and know who to listen to.

[Madi]

@ steve

You should separate the forum from gentleman to junkies or like drunks.even the people who got eyes at bottom not in head. People who cant tell their fathers name or dont have proper schooling. Or like dirty words comes from mouth every now and then."freedom of speech" only applies to human. Invite those gentleman who contributed for good doesnt have to grail.time to reform. Someones system may not work but for this he doesnt deserve the word u got "fuckshit" mate.take a breath test before login if possible to separate garbage.once u eliminate the junk the remains will be cultured human.thanks

[Steve]

Madi, we already do that. Most forums do.

But we probably have more tolerance than most forums because sometimes things need to be said how they are.

For example, if someone is being an unpleasant person, they can be called a "dick" . It may not be pleasant language to some people, but  if someone is being a troll, calling them a dick is a justufied term. It depends how its said though. Context is important.

[Steve]

Besides any bad behavior is considered on a case by case basis. Forums where everyone needs to be a gentleman don't work. It stifles free speech. And unmoderated does not work either. Worst thing for any forum is an arrogant, dishonest, tyrannical admin with biased moderation like at GF.

Here we have the right balance of free speech and proper behavior. We dont under or over moderate.

Taotie has a small pee pee

[DoctorSudoku]

Steve,
You seem to be a pretty fair (and lenient) administrator and moderator. Of the global moderators,  I think Iggiv and Turner are stricter than you are.

Bayes and Colbster don't seem to be that interested in carrying out their moderator duties, since they tend to disappear from this forum frequently for long stretches of time.


Overall, I would say keep things as they are -- if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[DoctorSudoku]

And, yes, iphone sucks. Android is incontrovertibly and indisputably better.

[Steve]

Moderators are probably stricter than me because they adhere to the rules I provided. But as admin I more liberally decide when to let a rule infringement slide. If I was on the fence about whether or not to moderate something, usually I'd tip towards the side of free speech, because open discussion is more important than hurt feelings. I have shit written about me all the time and it's good for everyone to grow thicker skin. It does no good for criticized members to cry about it. If you are the honest one, you end up on top to the people with brains.

I mean what I say because for myself personally, i allowed the nonsense about me to be spammed on forums, so I could show I had nothing to hide. But now I've addressed everything extensively and the attacks are just repetitive spam that would annoy people. Such attacks against others would be treated differently - basically to allow the "attacker" to have their say, but allow the target all reasonable opportunity to respond in detail. When both sides had their say, if they weren't finished, I would ask them to take it to another place unless it was relevant to other members.

I think Turner said it best. Here we have "pub rules". Just about anything goes, but there is still a level of etiquette and respect. I'm a reasonable person and think we have a good balance here.


Examples of things that would only just be accepted:

* Name-calling in an appropriate way, like my example of "dick"

* Excessively repeating facts about roulette (provided that person doesn't become a nuisance/troll). I might be viewed as a nuisance on this point to some people, but actually I bite my tongue a lot. Every now and then I flare up like a bad hemorrhoid, but its temporary. It's a difficult point though because people are allowed to stay blissfully ignorant without being harassed. But the truth is the truth.


Examples of things that would NOT be accepted:

* Harassing other members when they clearly want nothing to do with you (harassment is different from arguing). For example, Ken would argue other people started on him. But I carefully watched the situation for some time, and what happened was Ken and others aggravated each other - it was mutual. But when other people stopped, most of the time KEN is the one who continued. Not always, but most of the time.

* Publishing private or confidential information. Would only be justified in cases of sex offenders.

* Blatant attacks against people without real justification


It's difficult to have set rules and to apply them rigidly, because every case is different. The mods do a good job of deciding what's best, and if they did something unfair, they wouldn't be a mod. In cases when they are on the fence, they'd just ask my opinion. Certainly though we cant make everyone happy. We just do whatever we feel is right, considering all circumstances.

I think most people would agree I run everything in a fair and balanced way. So we don't attract the animals in the forum scene. They know their crap wont be tolerated. But anyway, this topic was about the time wait for the multiplayer game, not style of moderation.

[Steve]

Does anyone prefer iPhones?

[cht]

Shouldn't the time be the same as most online casinos offer ? 30 seconds.

Key in the latest spin, analyse the numbers to bet then click on the numbers takes time and 30 seconds is already too short, if there're plenty of numbers to cover the pressure is on which leads to mistakes.

Is there a reason for the rush, anyone?

If you're looking at this as practice mode a little extra time may help in the thinking process.

[Steve]

Some people have systems that require calculation, so they need the time. And some players just want the next to spin to hurry up. I think 30 seconds is reasonable for most people. I'll leave the poll for a while.

[Madi]

I prefer iphone.

[Steve]

oh come on

It's for girls.

[Madi]

Oh sorry. I thought its related to multiplayer