Create your own Non-Random game using Cycles!

[falkor2k15]

The process for creating our own Non-Random game begins with a choice:
1) Do we bet an increasing number of uniques (1s) to try to win the first repeat?
OR
2) Do we bet a decreasing number of non-hits (os) as the opposite bet selection?


Once we've established our primary bet selection of 1s or 0s (take your pick from the above!) we then need to add the rejected bet selection as secondary to our chosen bet selection, albeit shifted 1 spin, so the combined bet selections look like this:

Normal then Opposite


Opposite then Normal


BTW, I've excluded zeroes for sake of testing. Now, using the Cycle Length and Order constants, what will be our next step to improve our Non-Random games..?

[maestro]

I've excluded zeroes for sake of testing

why the feck most people do that ...it is like zero is not in the game...

[falkor2k15]

why the feck most people do that ...it is like zero is not in the game...

Even if there was no zero in the game, most people still would be unable to beat it due to Gambler's Ruin, hence online BV roulette does good business like other online casinos.
link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_ruin
Also, to test for positive or negative edge using any groups other than Straight Up numbers requires first removing zero outcomes from the testing, but once positive edge has been found we can then add the zeroes back again to see if the edge is actually enough to beat the house edge, i.e. needs to be at least 2.7% to return a profit.

[maestro]

sounds like you build up a car then test it in your field and then expect to run same way in Alaska...might run but not for long

[cht]

With parallel streams positive edge that beat the house edge can be found - yup I'm sticking my neck out to say that ludicrous sh@t claim.

Since roulette is essentially a random generation of numbers, we never know if the hell sequence will appear to kill our br. This means the 1st issue to consider is the risk of ruin, meaning you want the model to run on a relatively small br - the smaller the better that survives the dreaded drawdown.

The 2nd factor to consider is the practical issue. I have a few models that clearly show an edge larger than the house edge -
yup, another over the top ludicrous claim. Within 20bets, it gives a net positive that doubles the br. The downside ? It takes tens of thousands of spins to place that 20bets. Not practical at all.

Personally, I will never consider progressive bet size. It is not good enough if you punt with serious money, you don't ever want your br exposed to such risk.

My purpose of this post is to thank you for pointing in the direction to link parallel streams with unhit, hit, repeaters, thank you sir. To let you know you are correct. And when you find whatever, it'll be so obvious you'll find it hard to deny it - nothing cryptic or baiting just stating it as I see it. Anyway best wishes to your endeavour on here. Hope you find what you're looking for. Peace.

[maestro]

i would love to see that..

With parallel streams positive edge that beat the house edge can be found - yup I'm sticking my neck out to say that ludicrous sh@t claim.

[cht]

i would love to see that..

If not for revealing the method I use, I will have posted the spreadsheet here, by itself it's useless anyway.

Imagine this, I started on this the last few days reading tg, winkel, notto and colbster. Toyed around some models to find them. It's already 3 yrs since guys !

Seriously, I'm sure many of you can code excel as well. Didn't you coders find it ? Or you're keeping your mouth shut idk ? I posted a spreadsheet earlier on @turbo thread, toy around with it, any EC r/b, h/l, o/e......you may find it as well if you haven't. Maybe someday who knows. Btw I'm talking about not practical edge over house edge that can't be used for making money just theorectical, don't read me wrong!

[maestro]

talking about not practical edge over house edge

we are for money in it<roulette<else>is waste of time

[cht]

we are for money in it<roulette<else>is waste of time

You know as well as I do, no one in their right mind will ever post anything about that on forums nor reveal in real life environment. It won't happen. Example, will you ever get Steve reveal anything besides brief mention about his roulette computers ? The same question to APers Bayes, thelaw.....? Nothing, nada, zilch. Believe what you will, that's it.

[3Nine]

cht,
This goes much further back than 3 years.

This thread might be helpful for you... link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17115.0

Oh, and perhaps the Excel file on that thread is what rrbb was referring to during his last forum visit?  I don't know.. just a thought.

Have fun.

[cht]

cht,
This goes much further back than 3 years.

This thread might be helpful for you... link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17115.0

Oh, and perhaps the Excel file on that thread is what rrbb was referring to during his last forum visit?  I don't know.. just a thought.

Have fun.

Thanks 3Nine, I'll take a look.

[maestro]

no one in their right mind will ever post anything about that on forums nor reveal in real life

i could not care lessssss