PHP Cycles - Principle A vs. Principle B variance control

[falkor2k15]

Both MoneyT and myself have access to the same ancient training manual inherited through reddwarf, so indirectly we are both his students, but in all credit to Mel he was the first to crack the HG and with less time on his hands than me! I am by no means jealous and commend him for his achievements. I'm sure I would have already had a winning method myself by now if I never wasted so much time on this one problem of variance control, as I like to clear up all loose ends before tackling the main areas.

The question that's been bugging me for quite some time now: what exactly is the difference between Principle A and Principle B variance control in Cycles? At the end of a dozen cycle we carry over the defining element to the next cycle, thereby creating a butterfly effect with the next cycle being based loosely on the previous. This is called principle a - without that mechanism it's principle b (fresh cycles each time).

1231 - repeat is dozen 1 so that gets carried to the next cycle
1... here we are already influencing the next cycle with dozen 1, so sequences beginning with dozens 2 and 3 are forced to wait.

We learnt from "funny sequences" topic using the same principle a that HL and LH only have a difference of 0 or 1 in terms of variance, but this is because LH can only come after HL has come and vice versa, so there's a lock out. With cycles it's not quite the same, as there's only a partial lockout:
1231
133
3212
22

1 sequences do not need to change to 2 for a 2 sequence - it can happen via a 3 sequence. Let's say we've got:

11
11
11
122
22
212
22
2..

It's still equally-likely whether the next sequence will be 1,2 or 3 - or when a change happens, 50/50 on 1 or 3.

In the end the variance can still have wild swings between 1,2 and 3. So what is exactly is going on here and is there any advantage? We need to keep looking at the evidence till it speaks to us...

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CL2o2 3 = Cycle Length 2, Order 2, Defining element 3.

Both A and B have identical stats. A clusters 63% on the defining element and order 1 in the same way that Principle B clusters on just order 1. There are more principle A cycles than B because we save time carrying over the defining element, but besides that something must be different with the variance, but I haven't put my finger on it yet.

[Madi]

What is this actualy. I can see this running for years without a single piece of real field example. All in theory  with some kind of allien language.

[falkor2k15]

What is this actualy. I can see this running for years without a single piece of real field example. All in theory  with some kind of allien language.

Yeah, it's not easy to understand, and terminology has had to be developed along the way (not by me incidentally). How far did you get with your understanding?

Principle A
1233 - carry over 3
3...

Principle B
1233 - don't carry anything over but start a fresh cycle with a virtual spin.
2...

1233 = Cycle Length 3, Order 3, Defined 3 (CL3o3, 3 for short).

[Madi]

Any original link with basic principle by the author that u can suggest ?

[falkor2k15]

Any original link with basic principle by the author that u can suggest ?

First time Priyanka introduced Cycles:

Everythign that happens in roulette happens in a cycle. A cycle starts and ends when a number repeats.

For the dozens, lets see that it will be like this.

19
25
18 â€" This is a dozen cycle of length 2

19
20 â€" This is a dozen cycle of length 1

18
31
1
30 â€" This si a dozen cycle of length 3.

First time "Defining Element" was mentioned:

"Defined" - The dozen which caused the cycle or the dozen that repeated.

20
31
20 - the cycle was defined by the dozen 2
1
31
22 - The cycle was defined by dozen 2 again.

1
8 - cycle was defined by dozen 1
22
18 - cycle was defined by a different dozen - dozen 2.

Principle A confirmed here:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15938.msg152095#msg152095

Reddwarf had this to say about it - not sure if relevant:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15938.msg155249#msg155249

Order came a bit later.

[Madi]

Thanks falkor. Let me try if i can understand this

[Turner]

Falkor....have you noticed that Charles and his niece, Marcee arnt getting any older?

[falkor2k15]

Falkor....have you noticed that Charles and his niece, Marcee arnt getting any older?

Whose that? Somebody on TV? I haven't watched TV since 9/11.

[Turner]

Whose that? Somebody on TV? I haven't watched TV since 9/11.

Its a film

[Turner]

I haven't watched TV since 9/11

imagine a world without Game of Thrones....I cant

[Steve]

imagine a world without Game of Thrones....I cant

Yeah I'm loving the new season. The dragon with the blue eye was bit predictable though.

[Priyanka]

Yeah I'm loving the new season. The dragon with the blue eye was bit predictable though.

I thought the last episode was pretty dumb. No?

[falkor2k15]

OK, I'm done with this topic now. I think the answer is simply that playing 2-3 cycles has different stats to playing just 1 cycle. I don't think the variance is actually affected after all. Will Madi come back with something? Anything else to be gleaned here? I doubt it...

[stringbeanpc]

Falkor....have you noticed that Charles and his niece, Marcee arnt getting any older?

Your other post says its from the movie "A Beautiful Mind"

Turner, are you dropping a hint ?

[falkor2k15]

Your other post says its from the movie "A Beautiful Mind"

Turner, are you dropping a hint ?

Yeah, several peeps here believe I have schizophrenia (Turner and Praline have both come out and suggested as such), yet they don't even know the earth is flat nor who is responsible for printing their money! They cannot evaluate evidence, and turn a blind eye to twin towers being turned to dust as well as the pre-planning of any Jewish genocides by the people who claimed to be fighting it. Little do they realise how vulnerable their own minds are - naive is an understatement!