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Started by maestro, Aug 26, 12:36 PM 2017

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Steve

Quotejust copy their one it shows performance of actual system without being related to another player...simple

Then look at the win rate alone if you dont like being compared with a fair algorithm. Or the bankrolls.

But they alone arent indicative of a player's long term results, are they?
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Steve

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Mar 24, 06:14 AM 2018
But where do you get the money to finance your forum, MPR, hosting etc from ?

Do you receive donation from members ?

-;$)

Hosting the forum including domain costs about $50 per year. I get that from busking.
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Steve

Mpr costs about $100/year hosting plus about $5000 to create it. I make nothing from it. Its free for everyones benefit because members asked. We can make it however members want. Thats exactly what we did. Members asked, i did.

Then clowns like maestro and notto dont like their rankings and act like dicks blaming me.
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maestro

QuoteThen clowns like maestro and notto dont like their rankings and act like dicks blaming me.

i never blame you for any rankings ...if you remember some time ago i did ask you if you can put my ranking to the last place and you said it will be too much of work...so i said do not worry..any way

see Rx 10000 random spins 1$ bet on red...and stats...how simple is that do not need to create hot water again
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Steve

Quote from: maestro on Mar 24, 06:30 AM 2018some time ago i did ask you if you can put my ranking to the last place

Yes you wanted a better excuse for a low rank. If you didnt care about rank, you wouldnt have asked.

Your reasoning was you didnt want people to be upset about your ranking... your low ranking. I mean wtf??

Most of those rx stats ate useless. The parts that matter involve amount lost, amount won, and spins played. Thats what the win rate and rank is on mpr.

If theres significant demand, we can add any stats, charts or whatever.
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maestro

QuoteMost of those rx stats ate useless.

yeah..RX charts useles
roulette simulator useless
people are stupid because they do not listen to what you say
and so on and on only your understanding is what counts

at the end notto is right...your head is exactly as block of wood

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maestro

i thought RX charts are useless as you said :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Steve

Long term test results are different to useless stats. I never said rx was useless. I'll help you understand tomorrow :thumbsup:
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maestro

QuoteLong term test results are different to useless stats. I never said rx was useless. I'll help you understand tomorrow


dont need you to help me with anything...thx a lot :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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maestro

i guess is better to be at place above than one after.. :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
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Steve

Quote from: maestro on Mar 24, 08:18 AM 2018
yeah..RX charts useles

Maestro, pay attention.

Most RX states ARE useless. I labelled them for you:



Besides drawdown, the only useful states related to "win rate" or amount of spins played - the same factors that MPR uses for rankings. Drawdowns can at least tell you if a player uses progression, and how aggressive it is. Other than that, the drawdown stat it isn't of much use.

Here's the most useful part of RX's stats:



Again it's the win rate, much the same as MPR.

Quote from: maestro on Mar 24, 08:18 AM 2018
roulette simulator useless

If you mean the bankroll chart, in a game where the betting limits are ridiculously unrealistic, firstly the stats cant be easily compared to a real game with realistic table limits.

But if you are only comparing to other players on RS, and discounting the rather important fact players can reset their stats repeatedly, rated game bankroll trends are a visual representation of amount bet, amount won, and amount of spins played. With RS players can reset stats to make their system seem better than it is. You cant do that with MPR. As anyone can reset and try again, what use are the stats? They are not a proper long-term representation of the player's real results.

Quote from: maestro on Mar 24, 08:18 AM 2018
people are stupid because they do not listen to what you say

No, they are stupid because they don't understand simple things. I don't know I wasted more time to explain it. I don't decide what the truth is. It is what it is whether you understand it or not.
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maestro

thanks for your time
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Steve

Also I've deleted a lot of inactive accounts on MPR. This is because they have played virtually no spins, and their stats make the MPR ranking algorithm less accurate. So the leaderboard has naturally been rearranged a bit.

One thing that's clear is most players havent played a statistically significant amount of spins. The ranking algorithm is weighted so the upper parts of the leaderboard rank most accurately. There are players that have played far less, but have a higher win rate, yet are ranked lower. This is because anyone can get a 2.0 win rate in a few spins. It doesn't mean their system is better.

To rank high, you need to have:

* Played as much spins as other high-rankers
* Wagered as much as high-rankers

AND have a higher win rate than other high-rankers.

Mostly ranks below #20 are not relevant, because there isn't enough data for accurate ranking.

For entertainment, I could modify the ranking algorithm. But then we'll get short term players who rank higher from plain luck. So it wouldn't be as realistic.

The best option I feel is keep the existing algorithm, but regularly remove inactive accounts. If anything though, I can give slightly more weight to win rates, despite lower spin and wagering totals.
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nottophammer



Not the 1st time.
steve happens on bookie roulette rng, see the #33 as its fast spin of 30 sec's thought laid all when the #33 given, see the BR not gone up as this #33 should have 1 unit, press re-bet and oh, no unit on #33, all other units are there, it only had a choice of 3 #'s to lose on and oh yeah the not covered #33.

Steve it happens on the bookie roulette numerous times, you happen to not put a number of those to be laid and oh look you would win but you've left that # off so the payout would be a win but yes that not laid # is the winner.

But not all doom and gloom still made the +50 units
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Steve

You wouldnt have put missing bets in time for server to receive them. It happens with any live online casino if connection has latency. Solution is bet earlier.
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