MPR

[Steve]

You answered your own question lol

Misleading response turbo. You know my comment was regarding the test spin database which deliberately has predictable spins.

It's not accurate, not realistic and there's no point in me wasting my time

Its a real spins database with realistic betting limits. Its not more realistic than rng and super broad betting limits no casino has, and free bonus money? Really, turbo.

there's no point in me wasting my time

And wasting time on parx and rs which is far less realistic, even considering table limits alone, isnt wasting time? Well not if you're just looking to get attention.

because "you" say it's the only proof you'll see as worthy.

How about this:

A neutral member gets spins from random.org and i upload them. The spins are locked in a file and password provided after you dazzle everyone and rank #1. So we all know the spins aren't rigged, like i already did before. And you get your verifiable random spins.

Still have an excuse? Always will. Wonder why.

I said, one wheel might end 15 reds in a row and another wheel starts with 10 reds in a row - stitch them together and say 25 reds in a row is accurate ?

Turbo you don't understand it yourself. Its 1 in 37 accuracy with or without stitching.

When rng numbers are selected, do you think it considers the past numbers or just spits out whatever number?

Random is random whether data is stitched or not. Rng stitches every single spin is no different to stitching every few hundred spins.

You said you couldn't even beat it but if you could would use some DS style....

Correct. It has the best chance of success.

I'm the one full of shit right ?

Correct.

You can't use DS unless you know the direction of the wheel spin, the dealer changes and who that dealer is, the release point of the ball to the track

Incorrect.

Separating directions is ideal but not essential. Combining directions doubles the peaks in correlation charts, but some of those peaks inevitably overlap, so edge is still likely to occur.  its the same case worth vb when you incorrectly predict the revolution. Plus you could segregate directions by assuming directions alternate every second spin for say 10 spins.  Remember each segment is at least 300 spins from the same wheel. You can do the same for dealers.

As for ball release point, actually no, because even if the dealer releases the ball on opposite sides, the ball often will still complete the same number of revolutions before hitting the same dominant diamond.  that means a different ball release point but same winning sector, assuming a sufficiently strong dominant diamond. The primary difference is a few hundred milliseconds of rotor travel, which is basically a few pockets.

You don't know what you're talking about.

So are you going to show everyone how you rank #1 if mpr uses verifiable rng you say your system needs?

I'm betting theres nothing anyine could do or say to have you test your system on anything  but an unrealistic game, with super broad table limits or free bonus money. I wonder why you choose those games to test with.

Mighty peculiar.

[Steve]

Yes, it is possible, yes seven figures.   Yes five of us, a couple of friends and siblings. Yes I believe Turbo won without bonus money.

If 5 of you won millions starting with $500, what are you doing here?

Sorry I'm calling bullshit here. There are too many holes in your story.

Unless you're talking about rx simulations. I've won millions in tests a few times too. So its possible, if progression is very aggressive. Still very rare.

The problem of doing billions of random checks with software is you take out the human brain out of the equation.

What?
No.

The human brain can account for items that  a computer simulation cant. 

No you missed the point. A simulation is just testing algorithms. Turbos explanation of his system is an algorithm without guesswork. It has nothing to do with brain power.

[Steve]

All anyone needs to know about repeater systems is the next or upcoming spins have no relation to previous spins with rng. So you always have 1 in 37 accuracy. Therefore what you bet doesn't change anything. You're stuck with 1 in 37. Repeaters bet selection is no better than random.

And progression doesn't change anything because each spin still has 1 in 37 accuracy. All progression does is change the amount you risk.

This is really old news. Its disappointing to see people still be misled because they don't understand the simple concepts.

[ignatus]

Yes? im sorry, Steve, pls , TG is only here for the drama,(like Mr.J) obviously? Mr.J has almost sucessfully ruined the "roulette 30"-forum, by being a dramaqueen over there, so stop wasting your time with this nonsense/TG?....:S Have you seen their own forum? There's nothin but drama "over there"....so please fix the MPR and end this no? thank you

[Nimo]

If 5 of you won millions starting with $500, what are you doing here?

Sorry I'm calling bullshit here. There are too many holes in your story.

Unless you're talking about rx simulations. I've won millions in tests a few times too. So its possible, if progression is very aggressive. Still very rare.

What?
No.

No you missed the point. A simulation is just testing algorithms. Turbos explanation of his system is an algorithm without guesswork. It has nothing to do with brain power.
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I wasn't necessarily talking roulette, I said betting. I'm talking real money, not simulations.

I'm here because I want to conquer roulette. I believe I found a way to do that.  If I can help a few others along the way, being altruistic gives me more pleasure than anything money can buy

[nottophammer]

Roll on MPR


+425 not going to set the leaderboard alight, but as long as keep the one bankroll, I'd take that all day long

[TurboGenius]

All anyone needs to know about repeater systems is the next or upcoming spins have no relation to previous spins with rng. So you always have 1 in 37 accuracy. Therefore what you bet doesn't change anything. You're stuck with 1 in 37. Repeaters bet selection is no better than random.

Here is a main problem and you won't admit that you are clearly wrong.
Which is fine.
So all 37 numbers appear once in 37 spins ? Yes or No.
then all 37 numbers repeat once in the next 37 spins ? Yes or No.
then all 37 number appear a third time in the next 37 spins ? Yes or No.

I know, this is too easy - it's No, No, No.
Therefore - you clearly and mathematically have an advantage - one that you refuse to see, believe exists, use, accept (whatever term you want) and to anyone who does see this obvious way that random acts - we are misleading and ignorant to how it works.

Like 2/3 of the numbers on the table actually show up during a cycle (on average)
and 2/3 of those are 3 shows (on average), and 2/3 of those are 4 shows (on average).
You've never charted this or run a test which clearly shows it happening - making the
entire game completely predictable ? You should. Save yourself some grief combating me on the forums and see how actual "random" acts. You'll be amazed.
Is the next spin 1 in 37 for ANY number appearing ? YES !!!!!!!!!! You are right.
No one is saying this isn't correct....Now imagine this game as being more than 1 spin lol.
It's hard... the math might change a little, just go with it.

[TurboGenius]

How about this:
A neutral member gets spins from random.org and i upload them. The spins are locked in a file and password provided after you dazzle everyone and rank #1. So we all know the spins aren't rigged, like i already did before. And you get your verifiable random spins.
Still have an excuse? Always will. Wonder why.

That sounds like a cool idea - but how does this work ?
I would need the spins - when (not if - when) I made the profit I know I'll make - I post the results ? No, then you'll say I fit my system to win against those spins.
I give you the method and you test and report the results (that's not going to happen)
How does this work ?
Is it 20 million spins that I have to beat 5 times in a row ?
The funny thing is, proving this uses math and requires no spins to test... but even if you wanted to test spins just for the hell of it, it would require a very small spin count anyway.
Oh wait, I had to read it again - you're putting the spins into the game and then I play the game and rank #1. Well, that's almost too easy. My only "excuse" that I can think of that I would use is that you would never accept the results regardless. Some kind of bug must have happened or I cheated somehow.... you clearly won't accept what I'm saying is the truth now - and you wouldn't then either. But hell, who knows - maybe I'll take you up on it.

[ozon]

Yes, I just want to add it.
Just some numbers have more frequent occurrence than the 37 spins cycle.
This is a phenomenon that is undisputed, the only mystery is how to use this information.
For me,  no losing the session by Turbo in  Parx  or  roulette  simulator  is a form of magic.
I am still on the road without full answers, but I appreciate this path, I do not know if it will be rewarded with success.
If I do not even earn money by roulette, I will treat it as a nice trip, because it uses my brain to the maximum.
I know that with every simulation I'm closer.

[nottophammer]

So when's the grand opening of the total reset MPR

Wonder how long before .97 is prominment on the board.

The sworn enemy and his many players about a week

[Steve]

Some time next week. Depends on programmer schedule.

[Taotie]

Hey Steve, I have a question for you before you reboot the game.

Honest answer please. If you go to the casino to play roulette however you play, would you start your game with 1000 units, or would you be more comfortable starting with more units?

Anyway the point is that players should have an initial bankroll of greater than 1000. Most if not all players end up re-setting the BR anyway so why not give them more to begin with?

I would suggest a 5000 unit bankroll/resets. It won't make any difference to the rating algorithm so why not?

Does anyone else have an amount in mind?

[Steve]

Honest answer please. If you go to the casino to play roulette however you play, would you start your game with 1000 units, or would you be more comfortable starting with more units?

It would depend on a lot of different factors. I can set the starting bankroll to whatever we want. Sure I'll make it bigger. We'll try $5000

[nottophammer]

Hi Steve
i did ask for last 10 numbers to be on marquee when log on as you do see the last spins before you entered the game at B+M

[Taotie]

Wow, that's some extra coding. Can't you just press ready 10 times really fast?

Oh that's right, you don't like pressing ready....