MPR

[Moxy]

I barely have time to do demos and meetings related to my own technology. For each meeting I drive an hour each way, set up the wheel, then it takes time to do proper testing. It's a full day. I'm still not clear on why you want to demonstrate your method to me.

I suggest I come straight to you.  Why wouldn't you want to see it in person?  I mean this was a major reason to have a forum like this, I presume, and a place to promote your computers as well.   I'm not trying to waste your time here.   This serves everyone involved.  Why do you make it seem like I came out of the blue.  I've kind of been progressing this along with prior discussions with you. 

Here's the beginning of our last discussion as a refresher:

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20484.msg203779#msg203779

[Moxy]

I acknowledge that you have a lot of things on your plate (blogs, forums, testing, programming, etc) since I do read your blog but I am adamant that I won't waste your time.

[Steve]

A lot of people contact me claiming to have the HG, but don't. If I tried to meet with everyone with such claims it wouldn't even be possible because of the time it would take.


Why not just show me on MPR? I can easily switch to a real spin database.


Or why not show me winnings in an online casino account?


Even if I watched you for a whole day of spins, it wouldn't be statistically relevant unless you had additional elements to back up predictions, like predicting where the ball would hit the rotor.


There are much simpler ways to validate your claims.

[Moxy]

A lot of people contact me claiming to have the HG, but don't. If I tried to meet with everyone with such claims it wouldn't even be possible because of the time it would take.


Why not just show me on MPR? I can easily switch to a real spin database.


Or why not show me winnings in an online casino account?


Even if I watched you for a whole day of spins, it wouldn't be statistically relevant unless you had additional elements to back up predictions, like predicting where the ball would hit the rotor.


There are much simpler ways to validate your claims.

I just don't want to be brushed off after extensive testing.  That's my concern.  I'm also afraid to ask you what my next step was since you specifically scolded me last time to set the parameters for testing my system so I just went with MPR.   

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20484.msg203812#msg203812

Just curious, how many people actually came to you personally?

[Steve]

I just don't want to be brushed off after extensive testing.  That's my concern.

One day of testing (about 300 spins) is not extensive testing. You can do much more testing with MPR or at an online casino, without me spending so much time. And more extensive testing is better. If you test a whole day with me in person and there's a profit, it would still be pointless without additional validating information like what I described.

so I just went with MPR.   

What's your MPR username?

Just curious, how many people actually came to you personally?

If you mean demos or meetings with me, over the years roughly 60 different meetings/demos, excluding online/webcam demos.

If you mean people claiming to have the HG wanting to prove it, I usually get about 1 each week.

[Moxy]

I meant being brushed off after extensive MPR testing in the tens of thousands or much more.   I presume, that's your baseline number.  I just need a little vote of confidence that I won't be brushed off.

Well, if we met up and used random.org, I can play at least thousands of "spins"  for you in a full day, hypothetically.  Good idea? 

How many actually met up with you in person?

[Moxy]

Random.org produces fast results (not as fast as pseudo-random numbers) and as random (basically true randomness) as you can get using atmospheric noise so it is quite useful for extensive testing in a very short amount of time. 

I will register my nickname and tell you eventually when I start testing.

[Steve]

I meant being brushed off after extensive MPR testing in the tens of thousands or much more.   I presume, that's your baseline number.  I just need a little vote of confidence that I won't be brushed off.

If your account is positive after thousands of spins, you'll have my attention but that still is not conclusive proof of the HG. Its like bias analysis - you can test over thousands of spins, and see a statistical anomaly that indicates possible bias. But still that's not 100% proof of bias. Simple the more data, the more assured you are. But if you have other supporting data, then you dont need anywhere near as many spins.

Well, if we met up and used random.org, I can play at least thousands of "spins"  for you in a full day, hypothetically.  Good idea? 

It's far simpler and easier if you create an account and play on MPR. It would be much the same thing but without spending time with me. If what you say is true, then you should be able to rank 1st no problem. Then you'll have my and everyone's attention.

How many actually met up with you in person?

100+ individuals over about 10 years

I will register my nickname and tell you eventually when I start testing.

Ok no problem. Again if you rank very well you'll have my and everyone's attention, then we can look at proceeding further.

[Moxy]

If your account is positive after thousands of spins, you'll have my attention but that still is not conclusive proof of the HG. Its like bias analysis - you can test over thousands of spins, and see a statistical anomaly that indicates possible bias. But still that's not 100% proof of bias. Simple the more data, the more assured you are. But if you have other supporting data, then you dont need anywhere near as many spins.

Just so you know, I am not the least bit concerned about extensive testing into the hundreds of thousands, even millions, considering what I am asking for on our prior discussion.   But it could be a leap of faith if you back down from our spoken 'agreement' of at least a couple mil and offer far less.

Okay, I might die of old age if we're talking millions.

It's far simpler and easier if you create an account and play on MPR. It would be much the same thing but without spending time with me. If what you say is true, then you should be able to rank 1st no problem. Then you'll have my and everyone's attention.

Actually, I'd really rather not have that, tbh.

[Steve]

If you are asking for potentially millions for your HG, then there would need to be very clear proof. Keep it simple. Start with MPR and if results are good, we can look at coding into RX and doing more extensive testing. You would keep the RX code confidential until payment was in escrow. But we'll get to that if we get to that.

[Moxy]

If you are asking for potentially millions for your HG, then there would need to be very clear proof. Keep it simple. Start with MPR and if results are good, we can look at coding into RX and doing more extensive testing. You would keep the RX code confidential until payment was in escrow. But we'll get to that if we get to that.

Awesome.  Thank you for your time and patience, Steve. 

[Steve]

Programmer started work to add game moderators. Mods will be able to boot and ban accounts.


If dickheads create new accounts, I'll just add recaptcha to the registration form so it would cost time/money to keep going. If they use a captcha breaking service, then I'll add a custom captcha. I could easily manually approve accounts too, or use email verification and typical spam prevention methods. It can easily be at the point where you'd need the time of a fat lonely guy in a basement to continue. We cant realistically make it 100% secure against people without a life, same as moderating forums. As far as I know, only one person has so little of a life to do such things, like read every message on other forums then quote members to criticize them, acting like he wins at roulette. Some people forget to get outside.

[maestro]

cannot bet 25$ and 100$ on straights...is it a bug

[Steve]

Fixed now. I assume the new programmer, who just started accessing it, changed the settings for some unknown reason (the inside betting limits)

[maestro]

thanks