Hit and Run

[Andre Chass]

Hey guys,

I have been trying your method Andre using Stevens MM on RX,  basically trying to win 8 times in a row attempting to double the small bankroll like he said,  but unfortunately I haven't been able win many sessions as I thought I would (Becouse we are betting 30 numbers)...I would say on average I could win 3/10 sessions,  which is not enough to win,  as we need to win more than 38% of the sessions to achieve profits in the long run,  have you guys seen any other system that could win at least 45% of the sessions in the long run?  I have seen some of Ignatus systems that seem to qualify,  but havent tried them yet...

I have not yet tried Steven's money management, so I still do not have an opinion on this.

[Andre Chass]

For what reason? It can sure take time waiting..maybe hours. Maybe it's a good idea, but I don't think I will have the patience and nor the time for it.

I only make 1 bet per day and it's a high bet (1.200,00). I think it's worth waiting for 2 or 3 virtual losses. This makes the strategy almost invincible. I have studied roulette and it is very difficult 3 consecutive losses using this strategy.
I have the time because lately roulette is my job.

[Andre Chass]

Yes, waiting for two virtual losses would build in a safety factor.

The downside is that with this particular betting method, two consecutive virtual losses would entail a long wait.

Maybe one virtual loss would be better.

In any case, for the present moment, keep doing what you are doing (since you are so much in profit)  -- you can think about tweaks,  once you have your first loss.

For what reason? It can sure take time waiting..maybe hours. Maybe it's a good idea, but I don't think I will have the patience and nor the time for it.

I only make 1 bet per day and it's a high bet (1.200,00). I think it's worth waiting for 2 or 3 virtual losses. This makes the strategy almost invincible. I have studied roulette and it is very difficult 3 consecutive losses using this strategy.
I have the time because lately roulette is my job.

[RouletteGhost]

After having some time and going through zumma the only time I had 3 losses in a row with this bet selection was because of the zeros

However I did see a few times 2 losses in a row happen very close together

So be careful.



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Math gurus slam this. But I don’t care - consider insurance on 0

[Andre Chass]

After having some time and going through zumma the only time I had 3 losses in a row with this bet selection was because of the zeros

However I did see a few times 2 losses in a row happen very close together

So be careful

Math gurus slam this. But I don’t care - consider insurance on 0

So I wait for 3 virtual losses it will be hard to break the strategy...

[Andre Chass]

One option would be to locate a table that already has 2 or 3 losses and use that as a trigger.

[romano0327]

Andre,  waiting for 1,2 or 3 virtual loses is not going to change the odds of another loss on the next spin,  I once did a large test on excel for EC's and for one of Winkels methods called (Win as much as you want)  Basically on the test I wanted to see what were the odds of an event happening again after a virtual loss,  for example on the EC's,  I wanted to see if there was, any difference on betting on black right on the first spin of any session or if it was better to bet black after two virtual losses (Two consecutive reds)... And my resuts were the following : if I had I played black on the first spin I would win have of the time (out of 100 bets / around 50 bets would win) ... And if I played black only after two  consecutives reds I would have to wait,  meaning less betting opportunities and results were the same (out of 50 betting oportunities / around 25 would win)

Basically if you decide to wait for virtual loses,  you will have less betting opportunities and you will have the same proportion of wins a loses in those betting opportunities. 

Just my two cents.   

[RouletteGhost]

So I wait for 3 virtual losses it will be hard to break the strategy...

Well yea. But it took 300 spins before I saw that

Long wait

But, that’s the thing with roulette. Can happen anytime

So keep doing what you are doing. You can afford a loss.

[boyd30]

I think I've seen 3 numbers in row like 3,6,0...but I don't remember if I've seen 4 if that kind of betting would be the trigger. I was first thinking if you would pick a certain number or numbers and bet after a few virtual losses. But maybe the other way is better.

[RouletteGhost]

Typically zero is in the mix

Insurance....

[Andre Chass]

Typically zero is in the mix

Insurance....

What's zumma?

Could you do me a favor and test it again? Or explain me how to do it?

[RouletteGhost]

Zumma is a collection of real wheel spins

You can buy it online

I run every system through it

Very rarely does this have 3 losses in a row

Just prepare.

[Andre Chass]

I'm trying to find it...

Where can I find the zumma tester?

[Andre Chass]

My Ramanonsky strategy version!

2 bets a day - $1.275,00 bet size - Total profit : $150,00 a day

- 450,00 on dozens 2 and 3.
- 150,00 on squares 1/5 and 8/12.
- 75,00 on numbers 3 and 0
Uncovered: 6, 7, 10.

The trigger: Wait for 2 or 3 virtual losses. It makes the strategy almost invincible.

Too risky?

If you are going to start a business you will have to invest money and it is also risky. Think about it!

[kingmaq]

My Ramanonsky strategy version!

2 bets a day - $1.275,00 bet size - Total profit : $150,00 a day

- 450,00 on dozens 2 and 3.
- 150,00 on squares 1/5 and 8/12.
- 75,00 on numbers 3 and 0
Uncovered: 6, 7, 10.

The trigger: Wait for 2 or 3 virtual losses. It makes the strategy almost invincible.

Too risky?

If you are going to start a business you will have to invest money and it is also risky. Think about it!

so you covered two additional numbers...that makes your stragedy a bit better.. Good luck