Vdw

[RouletteGhost]

What about betting against an AP. Everytime

[Andre Chass]

Is there a way to simulate thousands of spins to see if this system is really reliable?

I've tested about 200 rounds but it's not enough. I get practically 50/50 using winkel system.

[Andre Chass]

Someone could simulate in a Excel spreadsheet several spins and after that analyze how many wins and how many losses there would be using the winkel system. I do not know how to do it...

And I don't know if there's a software to do it.

[Nickmsi]

Hi RG, CHT

There are 256 patterns starting with R and 256 starting with B.

To avoid the mutual bet, try playing only one side.

Cheers

Nick

[Andre Chass]

try playing only one side.

Thank you for your attention but I do not understand.

[RouletteGhost]

Hi RG, CHT

There are 256 patterns starting with R and 256 starting with B.

To avoid the mutual bet, try playing only one side.

Cheers

Nick

So let's say you decide to play high low

Choose only one and play for the AP?

[Andre Chass]

I got it

That's  good idea!

Only B or only R

[Andre Chass]

Hi RG, CHT

There are 256 patterns starting with R and 256 starting with B.

To avoid the mutual bet, try playing only one side.

Cheers

Nick

Mr Nick


Did you already tested it?

[nottophammer]

Thanks for that doc, but there is one way for me to avoid it, like i had done up till now, that is dont use it.

I'm out of it too!!!

didn't last long, then

[cht]

Have a look at this RG

An AP can form as long as you have two opposites. So for example: RED/BLACK, ODD/EVEN, LOW/HIGH.

Now suppose next to the EC that appears, we mark down if it is the same as the previous EC which appeared or different.

Let's use SAME for a repeat EC and DIFFERENT if it changes to the opposite EC. After all, SAME/DIFFERENT are opposites and an AP will form every 9 spins using these two just the same as if you were using RED/BLACK etc.

What you will also notice is how it handles the 'terrible two's' nicely.  Instead of losing 4 units before the mutual win on the 9th spin, a win was achieved on spin 6 with an AP of 135 on the DIFFERENT. So the advice is when marking like this, just play for the DIFFERENT and not the SAME. Of course there is nothing to stop you running a few different streams.

Option1 - separate, option2 - link

[Andre Chass]

Hi RG, CHT

There are 256 patterns starting with R and 256 starting with B.

To avoid the mutual bet, try playing only one side.

Cheers

Nick

It does not work. Let's say you're only going to bet on red.

R B R B B B B B B B B

no way

[Andre Chass]

An AP will not form in 9 spins playing only one side.

[Andre Chass]

Two ways I can think of -

1. Last bet at spin six restart next spin, or

2. Last bet b4 mutual bet restart after mutual bet

I think it's the best way

Thanks

[DoctorSudoku]

It does not work. Let's say you're only going to bet on red.

R B R B B B B B B B B

no way

Good counterexample.

Unless you want to convert the VDW into a standard but trivial follow-the-last (FTL) bet selection strategy.    

[Nickmsi]

I realize that most of you don’t have the tools to test thoroughly so kindly allow me to test the theory of never betting the mutual bets which is to bet only one side.  Is it better to just bet B or both RB in a VDW system.

I tested both B and RB with the same 3170 actual money spins from BV NZ tables.

The graphic results are shown below in pic #1 betting just the B and pic #2 betting the RB.

Now, this is only one test, the next test may be the opposite.

So I again tested both B and RB with 3,000 RNG spins.

Both RNG results are shown below in pic # 3.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Nick