A basic principle

[ignatus]

For example if there are 3 areas of the wheel where the ball is most likely to land, you could bet on 1 number in each of the 3 areas - this will give the highest "edge". But often the ball may just miss your bet by 1 pockets. So it is better to cover perhaps 5 numbers per area (15 numbers).

Wow, that's great Steve, thx now we're getting somewhere,... i did this experiment also once upon a time (so i know it's true? but old truth forgotten..)

Certain online casinos display the "hottest numbers" on the wheel, and what i noticed, it was a cluster of 3 main "groups" yes?..so, I tried to cover these 3 "hottest areas" the best i could, (that would be a 13-14 numbers bet)....so i did, and then put the system on autobet (flatbet), and left my computer, Now, i changed the bets for every 15-30 minutes or so (into the 3 new hottest areas),..and my result were all positive,...

[Steve]

ertain online casinos display the "hottest numbers" on the wheel

Yes because it's actually nearly useless data.

o i did, and then put the system on autobet (flatbet), and left my computer, Now, i changed the bets for every 15-30 minutes or so (into the 3 new hottest areas),..and my result were all positive,...

Yes but it would likely be from just luck. Test more spins and you'll likely find those numbers arent hot anymore. They may be just average, cold, slightly cold, slightly hot, really cold.. who knows. You will get the same kind of thing with RNG.

[ignatus]

For example if there are 3 areas of the wheel where the ball is most likely to land

so, how do you mean we find these 3 areas, if they're not "hotsectors", or "hotnumbers"(?)

[Steve]

There are not always 3 sectors. There can be 4, 1, 2, 8 or more, constantly overlapping.

There are numerous ways of beating roulette. You know I use roulette computers because it's the most direct and obvious approach - ie measure rotor and ball speed etc.

But there are other methods. Maybe you know about bias analysis, dealer signature, and visual ballistics. Some get predictions before ball release, and some get predictions after ball release. My best method for getting prediction before ball is release is called "cross referencing".

Basically cross referencing isn't exactly a system. It's a method of statistical analysis.

The ball lands where it does because of real physical variables. Like the ball, rotor speed etc. There are countless variables, but you consider the major ones.

Cross referencing takes those major variables and finds the correlation between them to predict winning numbers.

For example if we used cross referencing to predict stock market prices, we might have these variables:

* Average price of related stocks (industry news can affect common trends)
* Price of a company's local currency
* Seasonal trends
* Price of a commodity that affects a company's profit

There are many variables.

What you'd do is create a dynamic formula to calculate how those variables affect a stock price.

It's similar with roulette except I use permutations. These are basically repetitive calculations that check combinations of variables to detect statistical anomalies. And this builds a model of the dynamic relationship between spin variables and winning numbers.

It doesn't beat every wheel. And of course accuracy is far from perfect. But it beats enough wheels, and with enough accuracy, to make it viable.

You would have heard claims my system is a scam. From people with something to lose, or people that have no clue. My system is very closely related to traditional AP. But a few steps above traditional advantage play.  It's a very logical approach... consider all the variables and model how they affect winning numbers.

[Steve]

If you just start focusing on the WHEEL and WHY the ball lands where it does, you will head towards what actually works. But all the RRBRRBRRB nonsense has NOTHING to do with WHY the ball lands on the winning numbers.

Remember everything is "cause and effect". The winning numbers are the "effect". You can sometimes get accurate predictions only by looking at the "effect". Like if you test thousands of spins and find a possible biased number. But you will do far better if you also consider the "cause". Using the example of bias analysis, you could visually SEE a rotor wobble that is the "cause" of bias. Then the spins you test would just validate what you see is the cause.

But generally dont put so much focus on the "effect". Look at both cause and effect.

It's not super-complicated. The principles are simple. You don't need a complicated algorithm to start seeing accuracy.

[cht]

Even if your computers were offered free to me, I wouldn't be able to use them. The dealers reject bets if they are placed after the nmb call and that window between the spin and nmb is small. There's the supervisor who'll notice bets regularly placed after spins, reports to the pitboss, there's also the eye in the sky - four layers of surveillance besides the security screen entrance. No chance for roulette computers to be used close to the roulette tables at the local b&m casino. That's why I think practical issue is the most important factor to consider.

[Steve]

The dealers reject bets if they are placed after the nmb call and that window between the spin and nmb is small.

In most casinos you have around 10 seconds to get predictions and bet. That's ample time. The hybrid computer can get predictions 1-3 seconds after ball release if the server is hosted in the same country as the casino. Or 3-5 seconds if the server is on the other side of the world.

There's the supervisor who'll notice bets regularly placed after spins, reports to the pitboss, there's also the eye in the sky - four layers of surveillance besides the security screen entrance. No chance for roulette computers to be used close to the roulette tables at the local b&m casino. That's why I think practical issue is the most important factor to consider.

If you see the video of the public demo I posted, you see just the betting period, when the computer is tuned. It wins 93% of spins, but for that you need proper team play or you could only bet perhaps 5 numbers if you play alone. You don't need to make late bets on many spins to be out of the casino with profits.

All the casino sees is some lucky guy making lucky late bets and winning big. Just a few spins. Then they leave.

[falkor2k15]

Say we have any of these sequences of numbers:

1,2,3,4,5
3,3,3,3,3
1,3,1,3,1,3
33,33,33,33,33
9,8,7,6,5,4

Looks like a trend, right? An obvious "trot"? Hot numbers? Call it whatever you want..... But guess what. The odds of any number spinning next is still 1 in 37.

Don't believe me? Do some proper testing. Use the free pattern tester I published. Test billions of spin if you like and you'll see after all your efforts to find patterns, the odds are still just 1 in 37.

It's true that predicting the next number is 1/37 and could take a maximum of 500 spins to come.
However, take this sequence:
9,8,7,6,5,4

The repeat has to come by spin 25 instead of 500, and there's more chance the repeat will be either 9,8,7,6,5 or 4 (or whatever are the more recent 1s). This is called Pigeonhole Principle (PHP). Since we know the repeat is more limited and predictable - this also tells us a repeat on the streets or lines is also dependent on the number repeating.

We can use PHP to develop a winning system instead of trying to predict the next number.

[Steve]

It's true that predicting the next number is 1/37 and could take a maximum of 500 spins to come.

There is no "maximum". Random has NO LIMITS.

9,8,7,6,5,4
The repeat has to come by spin 25 instead of 500

No it doesn't. Nothing "has to" come by the time you expect or want it.

and there's more chance the repeat will be either 9,8,7,6,5 or 4 (or whatever are the more recent 1s). This is called Pigeonhole Principle (PHP). Since we know the repeat is more limited and predictable - this also tells us a repeat on the streets or lines is also dependent on the number repeating. We can use PHP to develop a winning system instead of trying to predict the next number.

No. There's not one thing you said that is correct (except 1/37). Anyone that actually tested properly would know this.

[vladir]

I released free software for everyone to test precognition. It uses algorithms which have since been removed from the internet by a credible research organization. They found the algorithm significantly enhanced accuracy of precognition.

Out of curiosity, where can I find this software? Thnx!

[Steve]

See link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18276.0

I haven't had time to run the trials though. I still need to organize that. It doesnt help I'm in an inconvenient timezone.

[Moxy]

Just curious, when will you start looking at NEW approaches?

Bruh, the forum is essentially free r & d.   It's not unlike a cult here, with loyal followers willing to give to the greater good.   Mainly, admin, seeing that that is the whole point of this forum.