Statistics and physics

[Roulettebeater]

7, 25, 13, 33

29, 7, 28
2, 25, 17
27, 13, 36
16, 33, 1

Ok I know, you want only one neighbour, what if the second neighbour number hits, believe me it happens !!

[Andre Chass]

Ok I know, you want only one neighbour, what if the second neighbour number hits, believe me it happens !!

So you have to bet more neighbour numbers...

[Roulettebeater]

So you have to bet more neighbour numbers...

Here is the trap !
If you increase the neighbours you are already by 20 numbers covered!

Does it still make sense ?

[Andre Chass]

Here is the trap !
If you increase the neighbours you are already by 20 numbers covered!

Does it still make sense ?

Then you should accept the loss. Roulette computers can also have some consecutive losses. The purpose of software is to earn more than lose. Software computers are not invincible and can also make wrong predictions. That is why it is necessary a lot of training.
Steve knows that!

[Roulettebeater]

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36 W
35 W
27 -
6  W
11 W
11 W
17 -
1  -
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4  W
27 W
26 W
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30 W
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32 W
1
35 -
36 W
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19 L
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11 L
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0  W
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30 -
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15 -
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25 W

W=22
L=8
NO-PLAY=40


A typical session, note the no-play are high as placing bets was risky due to some certain conditions


[Bebediktus3]

Andre, so you use in play Jafco device ?

[Roulettebeater]

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11 W
36 W
17 L
13 L
7  -
20 -
15 -
34 -
11 W
25 L
9  W
2  L
35 W
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24 W
1  -
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27 W
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10 -
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33 W
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34 -
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W=25
L=13
NO-PLAY=56

Hitrate ~ 75%


[Steve]

I often say any tool is only as good as its user. You need to understand settings, limitations and correct use.

And yes of course computers can have consecutive losses.

[Roulettebeater]

I often say any tool is only as good as its user. You need to understand settings, limitations and correct use.

And yes of course computers can have consecutive losses.

yup, i'm ok with the setting i am familiar with, and when bet isn't >=50% secure i skip it (-)
with 75% Hitrate i should be doing fine.. or?

[Steve]

I dont know enough about your method to give advice. But generally if you know the variables where spins are more predictable, then yes isolate to them. But this means you need to skip spins. Usually with my computers we only use the advanced settings which can skip less profitable spins if we really need extra edge. The downside is then play can take longer. But you need to often skip spins to avoid detection anyway, depending on the method you're using. There are a lot of variables and again I dont know enough about what you do.

[DoctorSudoku]

Here is the trap !
If you increase the neighbours you are already by 20 numbers covered!

Does it still make sense ?

You are getting a good idea of one of the biggest problems with this method. When you are targeting certain numbers, their neighbors get hit !

To mitigate that problem, you think about betting their neighbors also -- and then you are betting too many numbers and if the hits don't come early, you face the inevitable eventuality of getting sucked into the whirlpool of negative progressions.

It is a practical conundrum, for sure -- and there are no easy solutions.

[Roulettebeater]

You are getting a good idea of one of the biggest problems with this method. When you are targeting certain numbers, their neighbors get hit !

To mitigate that problem, you think about betting their neighbors also -- and then you are betting too many numbers and if the hits don't come early, you face the inevitable eventuality of getting sucked into the whirlpool of negative progressions.

It is a practical conundrum, for sure -- and there are no easy solutions.

yeah, and you dont realize until you get screwed!
but i have found a workaround, i am skiping a lot of bets where the distribution of numbers isn't uniform.

[Roulettebeater]

I dont know enough about your method to give advice. But generally if you know the variables where spins are more predictable, then yes isolate to them. But this means you need to skip spins. Usually with my computers we only use the advanced settings which can skip less profitable spins if we really need extra edge. The downside is then play can take longer. But you need to often skip spins to avoid detection anyway, depending on the method you're using. There are a lot of variables and again I dont know enough about what you do.

skiping spins is a useful tactics. Besides all its advantages, it teaches you to become disciplined.
playing longer isn't a problem, some tables can spin up to 40 spins per 30 minutes, so a play of 1 hour a day is enough to make some $.

[cht]

Skipping spins is the way to go. To extact a list of 33numbers I skip plenty of spins. Yea it takes longer time(2-3hrs) per session but the trade off is higher reliability and consistency from less differing variables.

[Bebediktus3]

skiping spins is a useful tactics. Besides all its advantages, it teaches you to become disciplined.

All depends acordingly which criteriums you do that skiping, if criteriums are wrong - all tactic is wrong.
Say in mine play i not see any logic in skiping, because i not know how ball will behave in very end of spin , how it will jump so i play on what it do in averidge/ in most cases.
So if i skip then looks like i skip what is in most cases  and that is not good .