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Timing and the LW methodology.

Started by flukey luke, Oct 23, 08:12 AM 2010

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flukey luke

The buzzword around the forum at the moment is 'timing'.
Does it make a difference when you place a bet or not? Personally, I think it makes all the difference in the world. The problem that you run into here is that it now becomes very subjective. Timing is an artform, it is not something that you can just learn in 5 minutes. How many years did tiger take to perfect his swing. Federer with one of his returns of serve. Anyway, you get the idea. It takes plenty of practice to get good at the art of timing. The good news is that you have nothing to lose. You can try it for free. It does not cost anything to try and perfect this art except some of your time.
I am going to show you a concept that I developed several years ago which will show you how timing can be used to your advantage.  It will probably take a while to complete and I will open a seperate thread for any questions you may have. That way this thread can just contain the information regarding the 'timing+LW metodology' and not get cluttered.

flukey luke

In the game of roulette, if you don't have an edge of some kind, then it is pretty much guaranteed apart from a loooooong run of good luck, you will almost certainly lose.
I was reading one of Victor's posts the other day and he mentioned 'players math' as opposed to the other yukky kind of math  :P I like this way of looking at it. It kind of suits my style of play. One of my ideas of an edge is to go on a win streak. This is where you can hit 4-5-6 winning plays in a row. People have tried for years to concoct systems where if they could just hit 2 wins a row, a nice progression would be good enough for them to consistently win. The problem with that idea is that they mostly concentrated on the even chance bets to achieve this. Unfortunately, there is no edge there, or at least not one what I can see and the progression is the illusion that they think will make the whole thing work.
My edge (if I am not deluded) comes from the fact that I will be betting less than even chance and NEVER use a progression. The win streaks using the 'Timing+LW methodology' will be more than enough to produce a profit.
Ok, that is enough waffle to be going on with, my next post will start getting down to the nitty gritty. But keep the rotten fruit on hold just in case.  ;D

flukey luke

I could spend a few weeks going into elaborate detail about the 'inner workings' of my method. However, I feel that is not really necessary because it would be boring as hell and I can still impart the knowledge without doing so. Obviously, it will be up to your good selves to test it and do some work on it as well.
The first part is the Master Chart that I will need to share with you all. I will type out the chart below and then explain a bit about it.

1-1=1,12,12.
1-2=1,2,2.
1-3=2,3,4.
1-4=3,4,6.
1-5=4,5,8.
1-6=5,6,10.
1-7=6,7,11.
1-8=7,8,9.
1-9=7,8,9.
1-10=5,9,10.
1-11=3,10,11.
1-12=1,11,12.

flukey luke

2-1=1,10,11.
2-2=2,12,12.
2-3=1,2,3.
2-4=2,4,4.
2-5=3,5,6.
2-6=4,6,8.
2-7=5,7,9.
2-8=6,7,8.
2-9=5,7,9.
2-10=3,8,10.
2-11=1,9,11.
2-12=10,11,12.
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3-1=1,8,10.
3-2=2,10,11.
3-3=3,12,12.
3-4=1,2,4.
3-5=2,4,5.
3-6=3,6,6.
3-7=4,7,7.
3-8=5,5,8.
3-9=3,6,9.
3-10=1,7,10.
3-11=8,11,11.
3-12=9,9,12.

flukey luke

4-1=1,6,9.
4-2=2,8,10.
4-3=3,10,11.
4-4=4,12,12.
4-5=1,2,5.
4-6=2,4,6.
4-7=3,5,7.
4-8=3,4,8.
4-9=1,5,9.
4-10=6,10,11.
4-11=7,9,11.
4-12=7,8,12.
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5-1=1,4,8.
5-2=2,6,9.
5-3=3,8,10.
5-4=4,10,11.
5-5=5,12,12.
5-6=1,2,6.
5-7=2,3,7.
5-8=1,3,8.
5-9=4,9,11.
5-10=5,9,10.
5-11=6,7,11.
5-12=5,7,12.

flukey luke

6-1=1,2,7.
6-2=2,4,8.
6-3=3,6,9.
6-4=4,8,10.
6-5=5,10,11.
6-6=6,12,12.
6-7=1,1,7.
6-8=2,8,11.
6-9=3,9,9.
6-10=4,7,10.
6-11=5,5,11.
6-12=3,6,12.
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7-1=1,1,6.
7-2=2,3,7.
7-3=3,5,8.
7-4=4,7,9.
7-5=5,9,10.
7-6=6,11,11.
7-7=7,12,12.
7-8=1,8,10.
7-9=2,8,9.
7-10=3,6,10.
7-11=4,4,11.
7-12=2,5,12.

flukey luke

8-1=1,3,5.
8-2=2,5,6.
8-3=3,7,7.
8-4=4,8,9.
8-5=5,9,11.
8-6=1,6,10.
8-7=2,7,11.
8-8=8,12,12.
8-9=1,9,10.
8-10=2,8,10.
8-11=3,6,11.
8-12=4,4,12.
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9-1=1,4,5.
9-2=2,5,7.
9-3=3,6,9.
9-4=4,7,11.
9-5=1,5,8.
9-6=3,6,9.
9-7=4,7,10.
9-8=2,8,11.
9-9=9,12,12.
9-10=1,10,10.
9-11=2,8,11.
9-12=3,6,12.

flukey luke

10-1=1,3,7.
10-2=2,4,9.
10-3=3,5,11.
10-4=1,4,6.
10-5=3,5,7.
10-6=5,6,8.
10-7=6,7,9.
10-8=4,8,10.
10-9=2,9,11.
10-10=10,12,12.
10-11=1,10,11.
10-12=2,8,12.
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11-1=1,2,9.
11-2=2,3,11.
11-3=1,3,4.
11-4=3,4,5.
11-5=5,5,6.
11-6=6,7,7.
11-7=7,8,8.
11-8=6,8,9.
11-9=4,9,10.
11-10=2,10,11.
11-11=11,12,12.
11-12=1,10,12.

flukey luke

12-1=1,1,11.
12-2=1,2,2.
12-3=3,3,3.
12-4=4,4,5.
12-5=5,5,7.
12-6=6,6,9.
12-7=7,7,10.
12-8=8,8,8.
12-9=6,9,9.
12-10=4,10,10.
12-11=2,11,11.
12-12=12,12,12.
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That completes the Master Chart. Everything works of this particular chart.
I will show an example of how to use this Master Chart in the next post.

flukey luke

Regarding the above chart, I managed to squeeze all that on a piece of cardboard about 5' by 5' and had it laminated for durability.
Now for an example of how it works. Whatever number comes out belongs to a certain street.
1,2 or 3 belongs to street 1.
4,5 or 6 belongs to street 2.
7,8 or 9 belongs to street 3.
10,11 or 12 belongs to street 4.
13,14 or 15 belongs to street 5.
16,17 or 18 belongs to street 6.
19,20 or 21 belongs to street 7.
22,23, or 24 belongs to street 8.
25,26 or 27 belongs to street 9.
28,29 or 30 belongs to street 10.
31,32 or 33 belongs to street 11.
34,35 or 36 belongs to street 12.

I need a starter number to begin with. So 32 comes out, that belongs to street 11.
So at the top of my sheet paper or marking card provided by the casino, I put down an 11.

11.
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The next number out is 22. Number 22 belongs to street 8. So now I need to put the 8 below the 11.

11.
----
8.  Also what I need to do here is look at the Master Chart. The first street out was 11, so I need to go to 11's and look for the 11-8 because the last street out was 8. So looking down, I find the 11-8 and see it has 6,8,9 next to it. This needs to be written on my piece of paper.

11.
----
8. (6,8,9) I put the 6,8,9 in brackets to avoid any confusion.

The next number out is 32, this belongs to street 11. So, going back to the Master Chart, the last street out was 8. So I need to go to the 8's and look for the 8-11 because the last street out was 11. So looking down, I find the 8-11 and see it has 3,6,11 next to it. This also needs to be written down.

11.
----
8. (6,8,9)
11.(3,6,11)

The next three numbers out are 10, 20 and 3.
So my piece of paper after these three numbers appeared would look like the following.

11.
----
8.(6,8,9)
11.(3,6,11)
4.(3,4,5)
7.(3,5,7)
1.(1,1,6)

This is the way I would continue to mark out the results as the numbers are coming out. There is another part of marking that I also need to do which I will cover in my next post.

Twisteruk

Its Set In Stone =)

flukey luke

Carrying on from the last post, I got up to the following stage.

11.
----
8.(6,8,9)
11.(3,6,11)
4.(3,4,5)
7.(3,5,7)
1.(1,1,6)

There is another part of marking that I also need to complete, this is slightly more difficult but you get used to it. In the very top piece of your paper/marking card, write out the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11.
Now let's start from the beginning again.
The first number out was 32 which belongs to street 11.

11.
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The next number out is 22 which belongs to street 8.

11.
----
8.(6,8,9) What you now need to do is cross out these 3 numbers in the brackets from the 11 numbers you wrote in the top piece of your card. So cross out 6,8 and 9. You are now left with 1,2,3,4,5,7,10,11.

The next number out is 32 which belongs to street 11.

11.
----
8.(6,8,9)
11.(3,6,11) So, you now have two new numbers which you can cross out from the top of your card, the 3 and the 11 leaving you with just the 1,2,4,5,7,10. One other thing here is the numbers in your brackets. You will be able to see a 6 has repeated. You need to put a line through the furthest back 6. (either put a line through it or scribble it out. We can NOT have repeat numbers in our bracketed numbers. Also when a 12 appears, you instantly cross it out.)

The next number out is 10 which belongs to street 4.

11.
----
8.(6,8,9)
11.(3,6,11)
4.(3,4,5) So, once again, you have two new numbers to cross out from the top of your card, the 4 and 5. This just leaves you now with the 1,2,7,10. In the bracketed numbers, you will notice the 3 has repeated, put a line through the furthest one back.

flukey luke

The next number out is 20 which belongs to street 7.

11.
----
8.(6,8,9)
11.(3,6,11)
4.(3,4,5)
7.(3,5,7) Here, you can only cross out one number from the top piece of your paper, the 7.
This just leaves you with the 1,2,10 left. (In the bracketed numbers, cross out the furthest back 3 and 5.

The next number out is 3. This belongs to street 1.

11.
----
8.(6,8,9)
11.(3,6,11)
4.(3,4,5)
7.(3,5,7)
1.(1,1,6) From the numbers at the top on your piece of paper, cross out the 1. This just now leaves you with the 2 and 10 missing. In the bracketed numbers, cross out the furthest back 6. You will also notice here that we have two 1's in the shape of (1,1,6) We can't keep both, so you will need to cross one of them out. So after all this marking, what you are left with is the following.

11.
----
8.(8,9)
11.(11)
4.(4)
7.(3,5,7)
1.(1,6) This is what the card would look like taking into account the numbers you have scribbled out in the bracketed numbers and the only two numbers still left at the top of the page would be the 2 and 10.

flukey luke

So the two numbers left at the top of the page are 2 and 10. These are missing from the example as shown above and below.


11.
----
8.(8,9)
11.(11)
4.(4)
7.(3,5,7)
1.(1,6)

Also missing is the 12. So in effect, we have three missing streets, the 2, 10 and 12.
On this occasion, if we were betting, this is what we would be looking for to continue to go missing (the 2, 10 and 12) and believe me, these three streets or any other three street combination can go missing for a very long time.
I will write out the betting charts that you will need which covers every combination where three streets are missing.
Now the beautiful thing about it is that when we are betting for any one of these combination of three streets to go missing, we are not betting the other nine streets. Oh no, where would any advantage come from. We will only be betting between 4-6 streets and going on some really good winning runs and when throwing an LW methodology into the mix, things can get even better.
My next step will be to print out the betting charts required. Then I can show a few real life examples and explain how to combine the LW methodology with the betting charts.

flukey luke

The three missing streets can be any one of the following combinations and I will type up the betting combinations for all.
1,2,12.
1,3,12.
1,4,12.
1,5,12.
1,6,12.
1,7,12.
1,8,12.
1,9,12.
1,10,12.
1,11,12.
2,3,12.
2,4,12.
2,5,12.
2,6,12.
2,7,12.
2,8,12.
2,9,12.
2,10,12.
2,11,12.
3,4,12.
3,5,12.
3,6,12.
3,7,12.
3,8,12.
3,9,12.
3,10,12.
3,11,12.
4,5,12.
4,6,12.
4,7,12.
4,8,12.
4,9,12.
4,10,12.
4,11,12.
5,6,12.
5,7,12.
5,8,12.
5,9,12.
5,10,12.
5,11,12.
6,7,12.
6,8,12.
6,9,12.
6,10,12.
6,11,12.
7,8,12.
7,9,12.
7,10,12.
7,11,12.
8,9,12.
8,10,12.
8,11,12.
9,10,12.
9,11,12.
10,11,12.

In total, 55 betting charts.

This is where I agree with Victor and a few others. Roulette is a very dynamic game and there is no fixed bet. It may be required to change the bet on every single spin depending on what is happening. By staying in tune with the rhythm of the game and adapting to whatever is currently happening is in my opinion the best way to tackle roulette.
This does require a bit of extra effort on the players part, unfortunately, there is no other way around it.

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