Qustion for longterm losers.

[Steve]

Neither timing or patience makes any difference if you aren't changing the odds.

Say you wait for RBRBBBBBBBB to bet red (because it's... "due"). Well the odds of R or B are still the same, no longer how long you wait, or how patient you are.

[Andre Chass]

You're absolutely wrong!

Forget RBRBBRBRB. It doesn't work.

Bet the wheel not the table...

[Madi]

R and B also from the wheel

[Andre Chass]

You know what I mean...

[Madi]

Ye i know. But its all same . After getting 26 26 26 followed by a 0 . Then the chance of getting 24 or 26 again is the same. Thats what he said. But u r winning thats fine. Your satisfaction. By the way did you place bet of 500 spin till now( not those waiting spin or trigger spin)

[Andre Chass]

Everything in our lives is based on statistics  and roulette is not different this.

What's the chance red hit once? 50%.

What's the chance red hit 50 times in a row? Practically none.

Have you seen the number 26 hit 5 times in a row? I doubt it...

I'm betting against that incredibly rare event ever happening - and I will always win, because that event will never happen thanks to random

[Steve]

What's the chance red hit 50 times in a row? Practically none.

That's the wrong way of thinking. You missed the important part... You cant make a winning system based on an event you expect wont happen. Why? Because each spin is independent. The odds are the same on each spin.

The approach you have in mind is very old and well tested. It doesn't work.

I learned the truth of it myself when one night, many years ago, my "proven" method tanked bad. There was no way red was going to spin again. I mean how many times have you seen so many reds spin in the row. The chances of it happening were so remote. I lost like a month of winnings in one spin.

But anyway I wouldnt have listened either back then. Trust me, everyone that continues to play *eventually*  comes back down to earth and AP - or at least understanding why their old methods failed, and the need to improve odds.

If anyone thinks they'll never turn to the dark side (which is actually the light side), just keep playing. AP is not evil. Its just changing the odds. Besides I did read somewhere the dark side has cookies. Join us.

[Andre Chass]

No software will ever succeed in roulette. Why? The wheels change, the dealers change, the balls change. If Steve says otherwise, I want to test it and come back here to give my testimony. If a software works, why would anyone sell it? Can you answer me, Steve?
Why do you sell the software if you can be rich with it?

[Andre Chass]

Scientists work with statistics. Economists work with statistics, engineers work with statistics. What matters is the sampling of an event rather than an individual event.

Have you seen red hit 50 times in a row, Steve?

It's a simple question! please answer me

[Steve]

Even if wheels were changed daily, we could still beat them.

Dealer changes dont change wheel physics. And if a ball is changed, there are ways of dealing with it. There are 4 main types of balls used in casinos. Small and large ivorine, and small and large teflon. There are others, but almost always it will be one of these. As I often do in my demos, I show ball change is over-rated. I only explain the details to my players. Even if the dealer swapped the ball every spin, it does not make the game unbeatable.

Why do I sell my system? Firstly, I dont use it. I have something much better. Why would I spend a few hours to get a 5% edge, when I can get an 80% edge in a fraction of the time? My best technology is sold too, but for US$80,000 but only if you get to know me better first. It's not a small purchase, so it's viable for me to sell that.

This whole "if it worked you wouldnt sell it" notion is nonsense.

My computers are not a lottery ticket. They are tools. It's like a business. Why would anyone sell a profitable business? For a worthwhile price, no problem. But does the business run itself, or does it require your time and effort to run the business?

Anyway this should not be the topic here. Anyone can have their own opinions on these matters. And if anyone wants to look past the bullshit and just find out, it's really easy. That means seeing it for yourself on any wheel.

No, I have not seen 50 reds in a row. You are still not understanding what I explained about "rare events".

[Roulettebeater]

After long years studying the roulette I came to this conclusion: to win you should adapt your system to the game and not try to adapt the game to your system

And yes there is no 100% working system you will be up and down, even computer sometimes fail !!
the game isn't straightforward at all, however if one finds the ideal conditions which fit his play then should stick to them and never try to risk with other conditions.

[Roulettebeater]

Even if wheels were changed daily, we could still beat them.

Dealer changes dont change wheel physics. And if a ball is changed, there are ways of dealing with it. There are 4 main types of balls used in casinos. Small and large ivorine, and small and large teflon. There are others, but almost always it will be one of these. As I often do in my demos, I show ball change is over-rated. I only explain the details to my players. Even if the dealer swapped the ball every spin, it does not make the game unbeatable.

Why do I sell my system? Firstly, I dont use it. I have something much better. Why would I spend a few hours to get a 5% edge, when I can get an 80% edge in a fraction of the time? My best technology is sold too, but for US$80,000 but only if you get to know me better first. It's not a small purchase, so it's viable for me to sell that.

This whole "if it worked you wouldnt sell it" notion is nonsense.

My computers are not a lottery ticket. They are tools. It's like a business. Why would anyone sell a profitable business? For a worthwhile price, no problem. But does the business run itself, or does it require your time and effort to run the business?

Anyway this should not be the topic here. Anyone can have their own opinions on these matters. And if anyone wants to look past the bullshit and just find out, it's really easy. That means seeing it for yourself on any wheel.

No, I have not seen 50 reds in a row. You are still not understanding what I explained about "rare events".

Steve, the physics fail sometimes to predict the ball where it lands and this is the case when the ball bounces chaotically ... u know how

[Roulettebeater]

On eBay somebody was selling a computer that work for live wheels I have seen a demo of it but I dunno how the fuck he is doing it or if it's bullshit .. no one knows

[Steve]

Again its really easy to find out. The physics is simple. You can test the free computer i give.

You can see a demo on any wheel. That includes the online auto cammegh slingshot wheels with rrs and predictions about 22s before the ball falls which gives 5%+ edge with the hybrid.  That's the hardest wheel anywhere, clear edge. But we don't bother with online casinos. Its too easy to be detected and you need multiple accounts to win much less than real casinos.

[Roulettebeater]

Again its really easy to find out. The physics is simple. You can test the free computer i give.

You can see a demo on any wheel. That includes the online auto cammegh slingshot wheels with rrs and predictions about 22s before the ball falls which gives 5%+ edge with the hybrid.  That's the hardest wheel anywhere, clear edge. But we don't bother with online casinos. Its too easy to be detected and you need multiple accounts to win much less than real casinos.

steve, do. you think real casino so stupid to let you use a computer at the roulette table ?