Don´t mind the Chance you play, just play the progression

[winkel]

Hi @all,

in a fever-dream I found this solution:

Always we bet a certain chance we will lose due to the odds.
Always we progress we will lose the progression and our bankroll.

What could be the way out of this hell?

We just progress the progression!

Imagine you had one chip and you bet it on any chance and lose, you have to stop the game. You are busted.

Imagine you had two chips and you bet 1 and lose and bet the last and lose, you are busted.

Imagine you had four chips and bet one, and one and then the last two, you are busted.

So your bet-statistics look as follows:
1
1 1
1 1 2

and you know me as a fan of fibonacci the next row would be
1 1 2 3
1 1 2 3 5

[winkel]

The next thing we have to do ist to find a chance which has a progression (or degression) in its payout.

the smallest one would be the dozens, because it pays 3 for 1

and it works:
we bet 1 and win (get back) 3 = +2
we bet 1 1 and win 3 = +1
we bet 1 1 2 and win 6 = +2
we bet 1 1 2 3 and win 9 = +3
we bet 1 1 2 3 5 and win 15 = +3
we bet 1 1 2 3 5 8 and win 24 = +4
we bet 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 and win 39 = +6
and so on

as we know if bet a 1/3 odd we win at 33% in the first bet
and 33% of the remaining 66% in the second bet means 22% in two bets.

[winkel]

lets transfer this into a game:

we wanna lose 26 units so we can play up to progression 1 1 2 3 5

bet   Perm   app   units   W/L   Pay   total
   8   D1            
   33   D3   Start         
D1   7   D1   1   G   2   2
D3   12   D1   1   V   -1   1
D3   15   D2   1   V   -1   0
D3   8   D1   1   V   -1   -1
D3   16   D2   1   V   -1   -2
D3   35   D3   2   G   4   2
D2   35   D3   1   V   -1   1
D2   22   D2   1   G   2   3
D3   2   D1   2   V   -2   1
D3   28   D3   3   G   6   7
D1   26   D3   1   V   -1   6
D1   18   D2   1   V   -1   5
D1   22   D2   2   V   -2   3
D1   16   D2   3   V   -3   0
D1   3   D1   5   G   10   10

we wait 2 spins
in the third we bet on the first appeared chance as long as it wins
in a win we bet next on the chance that appeared before the winning bet and so on
we bet until our 26 units are bet and the progression is done.
If we have a win which satisfies us, we can stop earlier

[winkel]

If we find, that this prog-progession up o 5 is the best for this Chance (doz) we can go and bet 26 units 2, 3, 4 times or more

So you know what to lose
26
52
78
or more units.

every win goes back to your wallet and is not risked anymore

[winkel]

this is a chart of a whole day consistently played this progression up to 5
Table 8 Wiesbaden oct.22

[winkel]

This is a chart of differnt lenght of progressions
1 1 2 1 1 2 3
1 1 2 1 1 2 3 1 1 2 3 5
1 1 2 1 1 2 3 1 1 2 3 5 1 1 2 3 5 8
1 1 2 1 1 2 3 1 1 2 3 5 1 1 2 3 5 8 1 1 2 3 5 8 13
and so on up to 34

sam table same day

[mogwai]

Nevermind!!!

I understood!!!

My Best Regards

[winkel]

same progression-strategy used whit streets  and lines

[winkel]

Hi mogwai,

the idea ist following
1 busted
1 1 busted
1 1 2 busted

now we add all three progressionstreaks for a bet up to 2 (3, 5 etc.)
1 1 1 1 1 2 that is our bet! up to two
1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 3 this is our bet up to 3
1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 3 1 1 2 3 5 this is our bet up to 5 (fibonacci)

hope this is understandable

br
winkel

[winkel]

and a nother trick:

aas we have won in our first three bets more than 50% of our bets we try to catch this by changing the basic idea to

1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 3 1 1 2 3 5


I explained it firstly with 1 1 1 1 1 2 just to explain the basic idea

br
winkel

[mogwai]

Yes it is clear now thanks!

What if at the end of 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 3 1 1 2 3 5 we are in negative, for example -5 units?

My Best Regards

[winkel]

Hi Mogwai,

this not a strategy is a basics discussion.

If you started a 26 units progression and you end up with -5:

a) go home - you just lost 5 units
b) restart the game and play until plus or total loss
c) try a shorter progression e.g. 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 3 which is bankroll 15

br
winkel

[winkel]

Wiesbaden Table 8 yesterdays spins different progressions-length
Doz lines and streets

[albertojonas]

nice thought.

maybe we could apply it to some bet selection...

any suggestion?

[winkel]

It doesnÃ,´t matter which Chance you play, except from EC because there is no help from the payout and except from squares, splits and plein.

Squares and Splits are not defined exactly.
Plein donÃ,´t hit often enough or hit always at the small bets.

I recommend Doz. Col. streets and lines.

It even does matter if you play like me (bet the chance before the last) or if you play consitently one chance (1. doz. / 10/15 / 25-26-27) or always the last one repeated

Again: you donÃ,´t play the chance - You play the progression

br
winkel