Pigeonhole Revisited/Out of the box reference

[Kattila]

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Or you're expressing an opinion or belief of some sort ? ***

I am expressing my personal opinion and experience (real play ) , not sure
if ths could work in the very long run, but for xx xxx spins yes works.

[MoneyT101]

POS has to have a reason why they demonstrate this order, not based on some voodooish assumptions unless whatever universal claim can be backed up with empirical evidence. Or you're expressing an opinion or belief of some sort ?

The purpose of latest tech advances is basically to randomnise outcomes with physical intrusion mid-spin that's legal. How is this supposed order claim possible when such intervention is activated in actual live money play if need be for the operator ?

Does anyone have spins from one of these new devices?  I would like to see how much their manipulation affects everything.

[maestro]

The purpose of latest tech advances is basically to randomnise outcomes with physical intrusion mid-spin that's legal. How is this supposed order claim possible when such intervention is activated in actual live money play if need be for the operator ?

where can we read about it to see how good it is..thx

[psimoes]

RRS is only a problem for VB players.
If your method doesn't rely on AP then a wheel with RRS is as much of  a threat as a wheel without. At the end of the day it's all random.

[maestro]

if RRS can be on and of at certain times then means that random stream as whole will be injected with certain numbers and this is not good for the player will be same as hit the number to make person lose so will be totaly random and in other hand too negative for player

[psimoes]

They don't have any control over which number is about to be injected in the random flow. If they had, it would be illegal just like the number 22 in Rick's casino.
You can't predict the number that's about to hit? Like you could before!
It' s still random, with or without RRS.
If it injects somekind of a pattern then it can be exploited.
If it removes a pattern where there once was, it's still exploitable. The lack of a pattern is a pattern.

[psimoes]

Don't take that last sentence seriously.

[maestro]

“No, it was not the money that I valuedâ€"what I wanted was to make all this mob of Heintzes, hotel proprietors, and fine ladies of Baden talk about me, recount my story, wonder at me, extol my doings, and worship my winnings.”
― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Gambler

i like this one..hope you read the book

[psimoes]

I read it, yes. Things haven't changed much since the 19th century.

[MoneyT101]

If it injects somekind of a pattern then it can be exploited.
If it removes a pattern where there once was, it's still exploitable. The lack of a pattern is a pattern.

I agree!!! 

That's why I want to see some spins

There will always be patterns.  Especially in the game of roulette where one number has different groups it belongs to!

You can win somewhere

[cht]

They don't have any control over which number is about to be injected in the random flow. If they had, it would be illegal just like the number 22 in Rick's casino.
You can't predict the number that's about to hit? Like you could before!
It' s still random, with or without RRS.
If it injects somekind of a pattern then it can be exploited.
If it removes a pattern where there once was, it's still exploitable. The lack of a pattern is a pattern.

Problem with this pattern or non-pattern is it's a here and now thing, it's fluid and they change as and when. That's why their operational protocol once known is vulnerable. But it takes a lot of work to map their rotation. Is it worth it ?

[psimoes]

Probably less effort than what's required to detect a biased wheel.

[poobear]

Dyksexlic...!!


Now, using just one set of 37 RANDOM WORDS would be difficult enough, but supposing we added a 'CONTINUAL' SECOND data stream of random words (composed of the 37 original word 'VOCABULARY' data set) and fed them into a roulette table composed of the FIRST set (to act as our roulette 'SPIN' event) !

Would it be possible for any roulette 'System' to be able to take the SECOND data stream of words and accurately PREDICT the correct relevance of each of the 37 place holders (roulette table bets) BEFORE 1 of the words REPEATS ? - thus ORDERING them into a COHERENT English Sentence that used the 37 WORDS in the CORRECT order.

Now the 'CHANCES' of being able to do this are so high, that no computer in the world could POSSIBLY calculate the odds. If I used a machine to create the second data stream of roulette 'SPIN' words, I could be accused by 'EXPERTS' of cheating. So I thought of a better solution. Supposing I took words (which could be found on the original 37 word roulette (table') from forum posts (in the order they were posted) to act as 'RANDOM' spin events ?

Could anyone then accuse me of cheating ? I didn't choose the 'spin' words myself, did I ?

Hi Mel,

So, I have taken one of your paragraphs with 37 words and rearranged the words while trying to keep the grammar correct -

"I'm telling you that you can create a situation in which you can, using this concept.  I'm speaking from experience.  Now it's not perfect I play to many numbers for my taste but it can't lose!  Mathematically! "

The same words but different sentences -

"I’m not now telling you that I’m perfect, It’s from a mathematically speaking situation. You can taste this numbers experience in which I play, but you can’t create my concept using too many, for it may lose."

So now we have the same 37 words/numbers but different ordering, what is the relevance?

[MoneyT101]

I'm still working on dyksexlic version honestly.

I play a similar idea I created using the theory

Let's say first spin is 21

I enter the number into my sheet and that converts to dynamic stream.  Which in turn creates a parallel stream

Now based on my two streams I know exactly where my repeats are.

So what happens more then repeats? 

But I can't play just for that I need a combination of it.

So this is where the magic happens! I'm not trying to predict who wins because that would be stupid!  I just want to win more then I lose.

Here are my results...

WL25%.....LW 25%
WW 25%
LL 25%

I decided what makes me win and what makes me lose. 

[stringbeanpc]

I enter the number into my sheet and that converts to dynamic stream.  Which in turn creates a parallel stream

As I understand, the dynamic stream is the order of winning numbers like this

1st  position - most recent winning number
2nd position - 2nd most recent winning number
3rd position - 3rd most recent winning number
and so on

What I do not understand is the term "parallel stream" ?