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Pigeonhole Revisited/Out of the box reference

Started by iar000, Nov 08, 10:54 AM 2017

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Quote from: psimoes on Nov 09, 05:10 AM 2017
How many systems passed the 10000 spins only to go into a downward spiral ad infinitum? How many thought they had found "it", then acted all c***y. In the end, time and money have always told the truth.

Wake up people.
Yup, get yourself banned or blacklisted in the griffin book then you have a reason to act c***y. Too bad there're always the usual suckers, toady and bootlickers.

MoneyT101

Quote from: psimoes on Nov 09, 05:10 AM 2017
If you believe there´s a Holy Grail then you believe in anything. And you´re all a gullible bunch if you ask me.
That dislexic guy posted a lot of nonsense and you all believed he had a grail, maybe even two :D haha. He left in shame after realizing it was all crap and you think it was to avoid giving any more clues?
That red dwarf guy knows about maths and knows math alone can´t beat a math game, despite what some may think. Same as Prianka. Did both ever claim to have found a holy grail? Yet you believe otherwise "because the truth must only be told to those who deserve it".
All because they used jargons like PhP, vdW, BP which are useless in roulette anyway, but made you look like sitting donkeys staring at a palace.

How many systems passed the 10000 spins only to go into a downward spiral ad infinitum? How many thought they had found "it", then acted all c***y. In the end, time and money have always told the truth.

Wake up people.

Yup it failed the 10000 spins!  You guys are right.  Waste of time approach.  No way to beat the casinos

Nothing more to talk about.   Sorry for wasting your time ✌️
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Priyanka

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Nov 09, 07:10 AM 2017Nothing more to talk about.   Sorry for wasting your time ✌️
From now on please don’t act c***y. Cheers.
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MoneyT101

Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

psimoes

LOL you two seem like nice people but you´re being sarcastic assholes - "Wooo we´re so special" - Yeah we can see that  :xd: but whatever, good luck in your quest, since you don´t have to learn from nobody. You will need it  :thumbsup:
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Andre Chass

It appears this is the biggest thing that's not understood. Most people would know I keep repeating "you can't beat roulette unless you increase accuracy of predictions (increase your odds)".

It really needs to be understood so you don't go in circles. Seriously this is a really, really basic concept. You are a casino's fool if you don't understand it. And even worse if you ignore what I'm saying here.

Sure you can say I'm just one of those annoying math people. I'm one of those annoying people that harp on about the "house edge". If you're one of the people who say that, then you need to understand it's like denying the existence of gravity. Seriously imagine trying to tell someone gravity doesn't exist. Then you drop a rock and say "see, that's gravity working right there!" and they respond "Nah that's your opinion. Don't push your opinions on me". That's exactly how ignorant some of you are.

WAKE UP AND PAY ATTENTION

Say you bet on 0 for 37 spins. If you have "random accuracy", you will win 1 in 37 spins. The payout is 35-1 so in 37 spins you get back 35 chips PLUS your original bet. This leaves you with 36 chips every 37 spins. This is a -1 loss, and the house edge is 1/37 = 2.7%

Really basic, right?

Now consider this....

Say we have any of these sequences of numbers:

1,2,3,4,5
3,3,3,3,3
1,3,1,3,1,3
33,33,33,33,33
9,8,7,6,5,4

Looks like a trend, right? An obvious "trot"? Hot numbers? Call it whatever you want..... But guess what. The odds of any number spinning next is still 1 in 37.

Don't believe me? Do some proper testing. Use the free pattern tester I published. Test billions of spin if you like and you'll see after all your efforts to find patterns, the odds are still just 1 in 37.

So while most of you are chasing your tails and finding fanciful elaborate ways to figure out trends and patterns, in the end, THE ODDS HAVE NOT CHANGED. It doesn't matter what you THINK.

Now compare two systems. One uses the "law of a third" to bet on hot numbers, and the other just chooses random numbers. Which will do better? It just depends on whatever the spins are next. Both of these systems have exactlythe same long-term accuracy though. Both have random accuracy. Both are 1/37 odds.

RANDOM IS THE SAME AS RANDOM. IT MEANS NO f****** ACCURACY AT ALL. THIS MEANS NO ODDS CHANGE, NO RESULT CHANGE. YOU WILL LOSE.

Not knowing this previously doesn't mean you are stupid. But choosing to ignore it does.

Stop wasting your time on random accuracy methods. Sure develop whatever methods you want, but UNDERSTAND RANDOM = RANDOM = NOTHING CHANGES.

Don't be the casino's fool.

Stop re-inventing a broken wheel.

Start looking at NEW approaches.

Test the accuracy of your bet selection. Test properly.

Understand progression is just different size bets with random accuracy. It's the same as a different person making a different bet on a different spin. THE RESULT IS COMBINED, ALL PLAYERS LOSE. The same result if you made the bets yourself.

Take the quiz I created. Anyone who wants to learn will benefit from it.

Understand almost every system is a different elaborate way of achieving the same result: RANDOM ACCURACY.

Understand a test of a few hundred spins tells you NOTHING (unless you have additional supporting data). Even random bets can win over 1,000 spins. Even a genuine winning system can LOSE over 1,000 spins.

See the multiplayer-roulette leaderboard and understand that's exactly how a real casino works. The combined overall result is LOSS. There are individual winners and losers. The casino doesn't care who's losing system won only over specific spins. They are making a fool of you.

If you want to continue being the laughing stock of casino owners, ignore this. Otherwise..

PROPERLY TEST YOUR METHOD OF BET SELECTION AND INCREASE ACCURACY OF PREDICTIONS. IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE ODDS, YOU CHANGE NOTHING.

                                     - Steve
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

There's no system that works in the long term whether it's flat bet or not. it's just a wast of time. It's a ilusion.

The only way to have any chance of beating roulette is changing the odds predicting which sector the ball will land on. This can be done using VB and roulette computers.

Imho
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ratwood85

tell to your Mom, Dad or Sister/Brother to write random 100numbers from 0-36 within 3minutes without thinking, just write it fast. Then start playing or wait till they show 10numbers or even 36numbers before you start guessing the next numbers they wrote. if you can beat it with your system/strategies then you are ready to go to casino.

psimoes

That reminds of the story I read on a math book. How people´s perception of what random numbers are differs from real random outcomes:

A math teacher asked two students to toss a coin 50 times and write down the results. One student did toss the coin, the other cheated by just "randomly" writing down 50 outcomes without tossing a coin.

Student A: HTHHHHTTHTHHTHTTTTTHHHTHTTHHTTHHTHTHHHHHHHHTHHTTTTH

Student B: THHTTHTHHHTTHTHTHHTHTTTHTHTHTHTHHTTHHTHHTHHTHHTHHTTT

The teacher upon looking at the homeworks instantly noticed one student had cheated. Which one was?
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Andre Chass

Eu não consegui adivinhar...

Qual dos alunos trapaceou?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ratwood85

Quote from: psimoes on Nov 09, 12:00 PM 2017
That reminds of the story I read on a math book. How people´s perception of what random numbers are differs from real random outcomes:

A math teacher asked two students to toss a coin 50 times and write down the results. One student did toss the coin, the other cheated by just "randomly" writing down 50 outcomes without tossing a coin.

Student A: HTHHHHTTHTHHTHTTTTTHHHTHTTHHTTHHTHTHHHHHHHHTHHTTTTH

Student B: THHTTHTHHHTTHTHTHHTHTTTHTHTHTHTHHTTHHTHHTHHTHHTHHTTT

The teacher upon looking at the homeworks instantly noticed one student had cheated. Which one was?

you should tell the teacher to start gambling since he/she have a 100% accuracy of predicting which one is manipulated.. with theory of probability everything is possible

wiggy

"You can lead a human to intelligence, but you can't make him think''

Ratwood85

today playing at PT live casino. less than 2hours.

225u to 1030u
80spins
48 loss
32 win
FLATBET !!!

psimoes

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 09, 12:09 PM 2017
Eu não consegui adivinhar...

Qual dos alunos trapaceou?

Wiggy guessed right. There will be chops AND streaks!
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Andre Chass

Quote from: psimoes on Nov 09, 12:23 PM 2017
Wiggy guessed right. There will be chops AND streaks!

É mesmo! Só agora eu consegui perceber!

Algumas pessoas aqui acham que tem um sistema imbatível. Se eu tivesse um sistema ganhador eu não estaria aqui a perderes meu tempo discutindo com outras pessoas.
Eu estaria me preparando para ganhar muito dinheiro, ficar rico, escolher uma bela mansão e a cor da Ferrari que iria comprar.
Não faz sentido!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

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