Solving the "Holy Grail" Flatbet Secrets/Together we are stronger!

[Andre Chass]

Ok flatbet spin 11 bet 28 remaining, win profit 8 units so stop? if 8 units not enough you're now in a battle to get back to plus, but at spin 18 you'd be +10 units so now stop and reset

I played like that and I had 2 losses spins 11 and 12. What do I do in this case?

[cht]

I would first like to thank you for all the explanations you have given us. You really are a roulette master.
I understood all your explanations, however I still have some doubts in some points of this system.
MoneyT says: "You can not win just playing repeats!
You can not win just playing uniques!
You have to play in a way that has both. ", But you say that we have to bet only on the uniques.
MoneyT says we have to start betting right on the first spin, but you say we have to start betting on spin 11.
Moneyt quotes: "Let's say first spin is 21.
I enter the number into my sheet and that converts to dynamic stream. Which in turn creates a parallel stream.
Now based on my two streams I know exactly where my repeats are.
So what happens more then repeats?
But I can not play just for that. I need a combination of it."
What does dynamic stream and parallel stream mean?
Is there a way to play on both uniques and repeats? KTF and WTF?
We know when to start playing (spin 11) but when should we stop? Should we stop at the first win and reset the game or should we continue to bet? I understand that if we continue to bet we can have big losses.
What is the difference between your system and the MoneyT system?
MoneyT say he has an invencible system. Is it for real?
Could you also explain to me what the fields on your sheet mean?

I'm sorry for so many questions.

Thank you in advance!

Try understand this bet.

8 = 0
5 = 1
3 = 2
2 = 3
18 = 17

[Andre Chass]

Try understand this bet.

8 = 0
5 = 1
3 = 2
2 = 3
18 = 17

I don't know what it means. Can you explain m2, please?

I'm in front my notebook for about 9 hours trying to understand the strategy.

What I discovered is that KTF uses progression. It's not flatbet.

[cht]

I would first like to thank you for all the explanations you have given us. You really are a roulette master.
I understood all your explanations, however I still have some doubts in some points of this system.
MoneyT says: "You can not win just playing repeats!
You can not win just playing uniques!
You have to play in a way that has both. ", But you say that we have to bet only on the uniques.
MoneyT says we have to start betting right on the first spin, but you say we have to start betting on spin 11.
Moneyt quotes: "Let's say first spin is 21.
I enter the number into my sheet and that converts to dynamic stream. Which in turn creates a parallel stream.
Now based on my two streams I know exactly where my repeats are.
So what happens more then repeats?
But I can not play just for that. I need a combination of it."
What does dynamic stream and parallel stream mean?
Is there a way to play on both uniques and repeats? KTF and WTF?
We know when to start playing (spin 11) but when should we stop? Should we stop at the first win and reset the game or should we continue to bet? I understand that if we continue to bet we can have big losses.
What is the difference between your system and the MoneyT system?
MoneyT say he has an invencible system. Is it for real?
Could you also explain to me what the fields on your sheet mean?

I'm sorry for so many questions.

Thank you in advance!

Read chance thread how to translate into parallel dynamic stream here.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19055.0

Translate notto's spin example above into dynamic stream -

                     36
                     35
                     34
                     33
                     32
                     31
                     30
|
|
|
v
and so on

                     7
                     6
                     5
                     4
                     3
                     2
                     1
---------------------------------------------------------------
1st spin 26

                     36
                     35
                     34
                     33
                     32
                     31
                     30
|
|
|
v
and so on

                     28
                     27
                     x
                     25
                     24

|
|
|
v
and so on

                     5
                     4
                     3
                     2
                     1
                     26

---------------------------------------------------------------
2nd spin 4

                     36
                     35
                     34
                     33
                     32
                     31
                     30
|
|
|
v
and so on

                     28
                     27
                     x
                     25
                     24

|
|
|
v
and so on

                     5
                     x
                     3
                     2
                     1
                     26 (position in the new sequence)
                     5 (position in the new sequence)

---------------------------------------------------------------
3rd spin 32

                     36
                     35
                     34
                     33
                     x
                     31
                     30
|
|
|
v
and so on

                     28
                     27
                     x
                     25
                     24

|
|
|
v
and so on

                     5
                     x
                     3
                     2
                     1
                     26 (position in the new sequence)
                     5 (position in the new sequence)
                     33(position in the new sequence)

[cht]

I don't know what it means. Can you explain m2, please?

I'm in front my notebook for about 9 hours trying to understand the strategy.

What I discovered is that KTF uses progression. It's not flatbet.

8 pockets bet 0 units      = 0units
5 pockets bet 1 units      = 5units
3 pockets bet 2 units      = 6units
2 pockets bet 3 units      = 6units
Total                             = 17units

18 pockets bet 17 units  = 17 units

[Andre Chass]

8 pockets bet 0 units      = 0units
5 pockets bet 1 units      = 5units
3 pockets bet 2 units      = 6units
2 pockets bet 3 units      = 6units
Total                             = 17units

18 pockets bet 17 units  = 17 units

Ok I understand it. But when to star betting? Which numbers I place the bet?

I think I'm an idiot !!

Can you give a clear example of how to use this in roulette?  I'm really tired without sleep.

I ll apreciate it!

[Andre Chass]

Ok I understand it. But when to star betting? Which numbers I place the bet?

I think I'm an idiot !!

Can you give a clear example of how to use this in roulette?  I'm really tired without sleep.

I ll apreciate it!

[cht]

8 pockets bet 0 units      = 0units
5 pockets bet 1 units      = 5units
3 pockets bet 2 units      = 6units
2 pockets bet 3 units      = 6units
Total                             = 17units

18 pockets bet 17 units  = 17 units

Ok I understand it. But when to star betting?

Start from 1st spin continuous betting.

Which numbers I place the bet?

I think I'm an idiot !!

Can you give a clear example of how to use this in roulette?  I'm really tired without sleep.

I ll apreciate it!

That I can't help you I don't know. I am equally an idiot ! Hahaha ! 

Only smarties like priyanka and MoneyT can help us but they won't so.........

Maybe at a price who know ? ..........

[Andre Chass]

CHT

hahaha if you dont know why did you pos that?

I know you re tryng help me but it does not make sense

[Andre Chass]

MoneyT101 is here in this thread watching my despair and probably having fun with it, hahaha 

[Andre Chass]

That I can't help you I don't know. I am equally an idiot ! Hahaha ! 

Only smarties like priyanka and MoneyT can help us but they won't so.........

Maybe at a price who know ? ..........

I don't think so because he doesn1t like me.

I'm a badboy.......hahahah

[cht]

MoneyT101 is here in this thread watching my despair and probably having fun with it, hahaha 

He's having lots of fun laughing at all this idiots ! Oooops me included !      

[Andre Chass]

He's having lots of fun laughing at all this idiots ! Oooops me included !      

hahaha Nottophammer is our only hope but he disappeared     

[cht]

I play notto's spins here.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19684.msg186122


7pockets chosen for clusters in dominant sectors. Risk 49units session br for 7spins betted. Won 1st and 2nd spin stop, target achieved for +58units. 

[Andre Chass]

KTF and WTF are strategies and not systems.I use them togheter in a session.

I have studied these strategies all night and day, but I can't figure out how do you use them together in a session.
Can you give us some example, please?