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Solving the "Holy Grail" Flatbet Secrets/Together we are stronger!

Started by Andre Chass, Nov 12, 02:42 PM 2017

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Andre Chass

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Nov 13, 09:20 AM 2017
Countinuos betting
No predicting!!

Thanks for your help, but if all you have to offer are more confusing clues, sorry but we do not need it any more. We need a clear example of how all this theory is used in roulette.

And I will not fight you in this thread. This thread is to find a solution to make the system work
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

MoneyT101

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 13, 01:55 PM 2017
Thanks for your help, but if all you have to offer are more confusing clues, sorry but we do not need it any more. We need a clear example of how all this theory is used in roulette.

And I will not fight you in this thread. This thread is to find a solution to make the system work

Sorry was just correcting you since you were wrong about the predicting part.   I'll stay quiet.  No more out of me  O0
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Andre Chass

What I understood is that we have to bet both Uniques and Repeats. We have to bet all spins, no wait. There's no way to predicting the numbers. It's a continuous betting without progression.
It's a continuous bet in all spins until any number hit.
We have to bet in a way that the losses don't affect the wins. We need to win more than lose.

The question is how to combine the Uniques and Repeats, how many numbers to bet and when start to bet.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

So what happens more then repeats? 
But I can't play just for that. I need a combination of it.
I'm not trying to predict who wins because that would be stupid! I just want to win more then I lose.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Gitano


Sorry guys ,

Only to make me clear this conversation , could you please tell me wich system/strategy are you talking about?
it's something related with KTF/WTF HG ? "continuos betting" are not contemplate on them :-)

cheers

Andre Chass

Session of 30 spins:
26-4-32-0-4-7-17-15-25-3-11-7-33-0-12-18-2-9-25-31-15-17-36-9-11-30-10-8-0-6

Uniques =12
26-32-33-12-18-2-31-36-30-10-8-6

Repeats=8
4-0-7-17-15-25-11-9

Numbers that didn't hit =17
1-3-5-13-14-16-19-20-21-22-23-24-27-28-29-34-35

Total: 12 uniques + 8 repeats + 17 didn't hit = 37 numbers


What to bet? When do we start betting?
How many number to bet in which spin?
How many units in which numbers?

I'm doing some RX simulations with Uniques and numbers that doesn't hit.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Gitano on Nov 13, 03:18 PM 2017
Sorry guys ,

Only to make me clear this conversation , could you please tell me wich system/strategy are you talking about?
it's something related with KTF/WTF HG ? "continuos betting" are not contemplate on them :-)

cheers

It's a straight numbers flatbet strategy
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Gitano

Fo me is a normal trot tend to became fast trot.(13+3) I would play only for repeaters at 25th spin , winning with  # 11 .
Because for the averages sheets we have 18/19 unhit on average and I bet for this 18 unhit stay, in fact #11 repeat sweetly... :thumbsup:

Lucky7Red

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 13, 03:20 PM 2017
Session of 30 spins:
26-4-32-0-4-7-17-15-25-3-11-7-33-0-12-18-2-9-25-31-15-17-36-9-11-30-10-8-0-6

Uniques =12
26-32-33-12-18-2-31-36-30-10-8-6

What to bet? When do we start betting?
How many number to bet in which spin?
How many units in which numbers?
What to bet? Bet only on uniques.
When do we start betting? From the first number show up.
How many units in which numbers?
1$ on every unique, remove number on repeat. Do this in 37 spins and start over again :)
when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?

Steve

Please post in English so everyone can follow the conversation. You'll get more help too.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Steve

Imagine for a second that spins were 100% random. This means that after the next spin, the chance of any other number spinning is 1 in 37.

Now track repeaters. Track hot numbers. Track cold numbers.

WHY would you do this? Is there a point?

It seems stupid to do it with "random" spins, so why do it with real or RNG spins?

Are real spins really random? No but your bet selection accuracy is as good as random if it doesnt work.

"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

nottophammer

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 13, 03:20 PM 2017
Session of 30 spins:
26-4-32-0-4-7-17-15-25-3-11-7-33-0-12-18-2-9-25-31-15-17-36-9-11-30-10-8-0-6

Uniques =12
26-32-33-12-18-2-31-36-30-10-8-6

Repeats=8
4-0-7-17-15-25-11-9

Numbers that didn't hit =17
1-3-5-13-14-16-19-20-21-22-23-24-27-28-29-34-35

Total: 12 uniques + 8 repeats + 17 didn't hit = 37 numbers


What to bet?   Non-hit numbers When do we start betting? after spin10
How many number to bet in which spin? start at spin 11, 1 unit on all non-hit #'s and as your saying its flat bet,you'll just bet the non-hit with 1 unit over 27 spins
How many units in which numbers?  1 unit as you say its flat bet.

I'm doing some RX simulations with Uniques and numbers that doesn't hit.
Andre Chass, the question is when do you stop, 1st profit or do you carry on where the more the non-hit come the bigger chance the repeats will make flatbet lose
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Andre Chass

Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 13, 04:26 PM 2017
Andre Chass, the question is when do you stop, 1st profit or do you carry on where the more the non-hit come the bigger chance the repeats will make flatbet lose

Ok I understand but read Moneyt 101 quotes.

"You can't win just playing repeats!
You can't win just playing uniques!
You have to play in a way that has both.

"We just don't know when it will happen. We just need to have enough winning games to where the losing games don't affect us."

"Play a game with 37 numbers! (Not same as roulette numbers)...Roulette gives me a result and I convert to my game and pick based on what I'm playing!  9 results give me a loss and 28 results give me a win"

"Let's say first spin is 21.
I enter the number into my sheet and that converts to dynamic stream.  Which in turn creates a parallel stream.
Now based on my two streams I know exactly where my repeats are.
So what happens more then repeats? 
But I can't play just for that. I need a combination of it.
So this is where the magic happens! I'm not trying to predict who wins because that would be stupid! I just want to win more then I lose."

"Bet on straights. Some straights get more units then others. Ex: Betting 10 numbers:
2 might have +3
3 might have +2
5 might have +1"
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

"Let's say first spin is 21.
I enter the number into my sheet and that converts to dynamic stream.  Which in turn creates a parallel stream."

What it means? Dynamic stream... Parallel stream
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

nottophammer

Here are the 30 spins. Now if you looked at file posted earlier in your name, you'd see morts checkpoints has an avg for spins 11-40 of 15 point something, so in spins 11-40, 15 more non-hit is a good yardstick. I've added the 15 which is countback, so at spin39/40 could see 24 non-hit have come. As you see at spin 20,7 non-hit have come, be plus 2 on the expected 5, the red 16 is showing where you could have seen the 16th non-hit, so fast for non-hit.
Now we expect 5 more non-hit in spins 21-30 as each group of 10 spins should get 5 non-hit, but what the usual is, is 7,+2  12,+2   and 24,+0 the distribution of the 15 non-hit. So spins 21-30 got 5 non-hit making the 12,+2 and the yelow 21 is where the 21st non-hit could have come.


Now all these non-hit would be a win with a progression, why ? upto the 19th non-hit they avg to hit in 2 spins.

Next if flat bet these spins, when would you stop and reset
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

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