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Solving the "Holy Grail" Flatbet Secrets/Together we are stronger!

Started by Andre Chass, Nov 12, 02:42 PM 2017

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nottophammer




Here are the spins, dont look good the turbo way betting the hot number. KTF +55 at spin 15
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

ArmitageShanks

Hey Notto just to let you know my real  ;) take on the turbo would have been longer than i like but by spin 55 i would be well up and by spin 76  O0 and the biggest draw down nowhere near what you have, You need to look at cutting down on the repeats played on.
Also won lots playing KTF with MM  :thumbsup:
Also still studying the trot and this latest info very clear so thanks

cht

Notto's question here.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19732.msg186129;topicseen#msg186129

How to define hot numbers for bets hit to R1 ?

1. Hot numbers have to be identified before they become hot.

2. Define by dominant sectors - example 24hits, 13red 11black. Red is dominant sector.

3. Define by clusters - since red is the dominant sector, example consecutive spins 3, 25, 36.......

4. By selecting cluster numbers that occur in dominant zones, we can cut down the number of numbers to bet for repeats usually 6-8 numbers.

5. If there is no clear clusters in dominant zones, then this spin sequence is chaotic, not favourable to bet repeats look for another set of spins.

6. The most reliable approach is to filter the spins input by applying AP. This means you select the spin results with VB from wheels and dealers preselected applying wheel bias and dealer signature. 40 filtered spins from 150 actual spins.

7. If you bet inside this upper percentile of the binomial distribution zone, you flat bet only for 7spins, no need for long deep progressions into the hole.

8. If you bet for R1 to R2 and so on..... they tend to become more and more dispersed instead of clustered.

The other solution is to restate you spins in the parallel stream that somehow circumvent the natural random distribution that allows the bettor to bet from spin1. Idk ?

Andre Chass

I would first like to thank you for all the explanations you have given us. You really are a roulette master.
I understood all your explanations, however I still have some doubts in some points of this system.
MoneyT says: "You can not win just playing repeats!
You can not win just playing uniques!
You have to play in a way that has both. "
, But you say that we have to bet only on the uniques.
MoneyT says we have to start betting right on the first spin, but you say we have to start betting on spin 11.
Moneyt quotes: "Let's say first spin is 21.
I enter the number into my sheet and that converts to dynamic stream. Which in turn creates a parallel stream.
Now based on my two streams I know exactly where my repeats are.
So what happens more then repeats?
But I can not play just for that. I need a combination of it."

What does dynamic stream and parallel stream mean?
Is there a way to play on both uniques and repeats? KTF and WTF?
We know when to start playing (spin 11) but when should we stop? Should we stop at the first win and reset the game or should we continue to bet? I understand that if we continue to bet we can have big losses.
What is the difference between your system and the MoneyT system?
MoneyT say he has an invencible system. Is it for real?
Could you also explain to me what the fields on your sheet mean?

I'm sorry for so many questions.

Thank you in advance!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Gitano

Hi Andre,
I explain you by private message how to read that numbers Notto give in file.
You have to read his thread on KTF and you will have all more clear.
Your numbers are very few , only 30, you have to pick more sessions to understand this. and Study a lot, in some months you will understand to read the trot ( trot is how the numbers are spun (37 or 40 numbers ).

The parallel stream and dynamic stream I really don't know what is it. I don't like to bet on 36 unique numbers to win 2 $...
KTF and WTF are strategies and not systems.I use them togheter in a session. Better if used with G.U.T strategy by Winkel ..the Holy Grail IMHO

Gitano

Quote from: ArmitageShanks on Nov 14, 04:27 AM 2017
Hey Notto just to let you know my real  ;) take on the turbo would have been longer than i like but by spin 55 i would be well up and by spin 76  O0 and the biggest draw down nowhere near what you have, You need to look at cutting down on the repeats played on.
Also won lots playing KTF with MM  :thumbsup:
Also still studying the trot and this latest info very clear so thanks

Hello ArmitageShanks ! what  does it mean KTF with MM ?!?
Thanks

Andre Chass

Quote from: Gitano on Nov 14, 02:56 PM 2017
Hi Andre,
I explain you by private message how to read that numbers Notto give in file.
You have to read his thread on KTF and you will have all more clear.
Your numbers are very few , only 30, you have to pick more sessions to understand this. and Study a lot, in some months you will understand to read the trot ( trot is how the numbers are spun (37 or 40 numbers ).

The parallel stream and dynamic stream I really don't know what is it. I don't like to bet on 36 unique numbers to win 2 $...
KTF and WTF are strategies and not systems.I use them togheter in a session. Better if used with G.U.T strategy by Winkel ..the Holy Grail IMHO

Hi Gitano

Could you explain how can I bet  WTF and KTF together with GUT strategy?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Gitano

André I don't know how to explain this theory, I'm still learning that. but I studied a lot without play for months.
Sometimes I ask to people in the forum that kindly answer to my dubts. But you can start read all the threads available on this forum. I explain you the KTF. it's similar to WTF.
G.U.T is more difficult to understand.I am not able to explain it, really. but there are the threads available.

WTF --->link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16732.0
GUT --->link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13756.0

boyd30

How about just playing the last four? No waiting time like Money T said and you play both on hot and and colder numbers?

Andre Chass

Quote from: boyd30 on Nov 14, 03:49 PM 2017
How about just playing the last four? No waiting time like Money T said and you play both on hot and and colder numbers?

That's I'm trying to understand. How to play both Uniques and Repeats...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Gitano on Nov 14, 03:44 PM 2017
André I don't know how to explain this theory, I'm still learning that. but I studied a lot without play for months.
Sometimes I ask to people in the forum that kindly answer to my dubts. But you can start read all the threads available on this forum. I explain you the KTF. it's similar to WTF.
G.U.T is more difficult to understand.I am not able to explain it, really. but there are the threads available.

WTF --->link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16732.0
GUT --->link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13756.0

Thanks for the threads links!
What I'm trying to understand is how to play both Uniques and Repeats like Moneyt strategy.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

If I play only Uniques (KTF) I know that I have to start at spin 11. But for how many spins do I stay betting after start playing?
Should I reset the game at first profit?

If I carry on where the more the non-hit come the bigger chance the repeats will make flatbet lose
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

stringbeanpc

I just noticed this topic and have read only the first post, NOT all posts.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 12, 02:42 PM 2017
Session of 30 spins:
26-4-32-0-4-7-17-15-25-3-11-7-33-0-12-18-2-9-25-31-15-17-36-9-11-30-10-8-0-6

Uniques =12
26-32-33-12-18-2-31-36-30-10-8-6

Repeats=8
4-0-7-17-15-25-11-9

Numbers that didn't hit =17
1-3-5-13-14-16-19-20-21-22-23-24-27-28-29-34-35

Total: 12 uniques + 8 repeats + 17 didn't hit = 37 numbers
---------------------------------------------------------
"You can't win just playing repeats!
You can't win just playing uniques!
You have to play in a way that has both."

Just focusing on the repeats in this sequence of 37 spins, ONLY Number 0 has won 3 times.
If I remember my statistics correctly, about 95% of all 37 spin sequences will have at least 1 number hit at least 3 times.
More likely a set of 37 spins will have 2 or 3 numbers each win 3 times.

IMO, to profit from this you would need to track repeats and adequate bankroll.

Andre Chass

Again...

If I play only Uniques (KTF) I know that I have to start at spin 11. But for how many spins do I stay betting after start playing?
Should I reset the game at first profit?

Because if I carry on where the more the non-hit come the bigger chance the repeats will make flatbet lose.

And If do I reset when first profit and start again?

Some help to solve my question.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

I'm doing a lot of testing on RX for hours and have not yet understood some points of the strategy. This is already driving me crazy.

I need some nottophammer help!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

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