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Solving the "Holy Grail" Flatbet Secrets/Together we are stronger!

Started by Andre Chass, Nov 12, 02:42 PM 2017

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Andre Chass

My final conclusions are the conclusions I had before. There is no Holy Grail. Who says that beat roulette playing flat bet is not saying the truth.
No change in odds. No change in payouts. No change at all. All that's left is progression or money management, and that's nothing but different size bets on different spins.
There's no system that works long term. It's just a wast of time. It's a ilusion. You leave the casino thinking you have a winning strategy / system. You win for 5, 6, 7, days. Then you go back to the casino and lose everything you won and plus.
I do not want to ruin the party. I am not the owner of the truth, but it is my humble opinion.
I like to test systems just for fun. I have a lot of fun with ignatus systems. And I thanks nottophammer. But ... Winning for real is another story.

The only way to have any chance of beating roulette is changing the odds predicting which sector the ball will land on. This can be done using VB and roulette softwares/computers.

Imho

I'm going back to my old strategy! Only a single bet per day with a good profit.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Roulettebeater

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 16, 09:03 PM 2017
My final conclusions are the conclusions I had before. There is no Holy Grail. Who says that beat roulette playing flat bet is not saying the truth.
No change in odds. No change in payouts. No change at all. All that's left is progression or money management, and that's nothing but different size bets on different spins.
There's no system that works long term. It's just a wast of time. It's a ilusion. You leave the casino thinking you have a winning strategy / system. You win for 5, 6, 7, days. Then you go back to the casino and lose everything you won and plus.
I do not want to ruin the party. I am not the owner of the truth, but it is my humble opinion.
I like to test systems just for fun. I have a lot of fun with ignatus systems. And I thanks nottophammer. But ... Winning for real is another story.

The only way to have any chance of beating roulette is changing the odds predicting which sector the ball will land on. This can be done using VB and roulette softwares/computers.

Imho

I'm going back to my old strategy! Only a single bet per day with a good profit.


Wrong wrong wrong
I me too was like u thinking no way to beat them flatbetting until I found the ultimate system which enable me
To play flatbet and I exit when I reach an acceptable profit
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Steve

How do you know it isn't just short term profit? 10 other people might be using the same system but losing. It doesn't need to be exactly the same system, just to use the same principles
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Roulettebeater

Good question, Steve !
after a lot of analysis i found the secretsauce, you always speak about cause and effect, that's exactly what I focus on, I am now able to predict the sector the ball will hit on based on the last 4 spins, don't understand me wrong the numbers are nothing and are just effect, the secretsauce is in the cause.

And returning to your question, if I see that the system is surviving thousands of spins, then I can surely say it's not a short term solution.
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Steve

It at least sounds plausible. the only way i know that would be possible is with strict rules waiting for the perfect conditions. But it would have limitations like taking a long time.  maybe you know something else. I hope your success continues.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Roulettebeater

I can't give a lot of details, because I don't think is a good idea to reveal everything.
But I will try to give an overview, suppose you divide the wheel in sectors, within the previous x spins you do a reverse-engineering by fringe projection for a quick and accurate digitization n of the objects  (with a certain accuracy) this technique will enable you to obtain an estimation of the speeds, with all these information you can now calibrate the wheel and bet on the most relevant part of the wheel...
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

cht

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 17, 04:46 AM 2017
I can't give a lot of details, because I don't think is a good idea to reveal everything.
But I will try to give an overview, suppose you divide the wheel in sectors, within the previous x spins you do a reverse-engineering by fringe projection for a quick and accurate digitization n of the objects  (with a certain accuracy) this technique will enable you to obtain an estimation of the speeds, with all these information you can now calibrate the wheel and bet on the most relevant part of the wheel...
Nice that you use computer aided betselection, imo it's the way to go.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: cht on Nov 17, 05:28 AM 2017
Nice that you use computer aided betselection, imo it's the way to go.

I am really looking forward to speak, talk, discuss, and improve this with people who are interested and have skills to bring this technique to the next level.
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Andre Chass

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 17, 03:07 AM 2017

Wrong wrong wrong
I me too was like u thinking no way to beat them flatbetting until I found the ultimate system which enable me
To play flatbet and I exit when I reach an acceptable profit

Wrong? Why?

I play flat bet but a single bet a day.

I'm a hit and run player. That's the way I like it.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

iar000

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 17, 03:07 AM 2017

Wrong wrong wrong
I me too was like u thinking no way to beat them flatbetting until I found the ultimate system which enable me
To play flatbet and I exit when I reach an acceptable profit



What is your system to play

Roulettebeater

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 17, 10:52 AM 2017
Wrong? Why?

I play flat bet but a single bet a day.

I'm a hit and run player. That's the way I like it.

Andre, playing one bet per day then leave isn't flatbet play.

I play for hours flatbetting and I exit when I accumulate enough chips

You said that you got a computer but can't use it online, I think we might consolidate your computer with my system
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

iar000

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 17, 11:39 AM 2017
Andre, playing one bet per day then leave isn't flatbet play.

I play for hours flatbetting and I exit when I accumulate enough chips

You said that you got a computer but can't use it online, I think we might consolidate your computer with my system


Ok Roulettebeater ..... But what is your system you use to play for hours ....

Andre Chass

It's impossible playing for hours Flatbet without progression.  Ok, it's possible, but you will probably lose...

That's why I play hit and run.

Imho
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

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