define, hot number, once and for all

[Steve]

Hundreds of millions in winnings on slot machines. Just like real casinos:

[Moxy]

Steve,

In all seriousness, what is your endgame?   

[Steve]

Steve,

In all seriousness, what is your endgame?

How far are we looking ahead? And endgame with what exactly?

Assuming you're just asking why I'm bothering with this stuff. I'm trying to help people.

Should I see obvious and harmful mistakes and say nothing? Most of the time I say nothing anyway because I don't have time and it would just annoy most people anyway.

[Moxy]

How far are we looking ahead? And endgame with what exactly?

Assuming you're just asking why I'm bothering with this stuff. I'm trying to help people.

Should I see obvious and harmful mistakes and say nothing? Most of the time I say nothing anyway because I don't have time and it would just annoy most people anyway.

Of course, by helping them you help your endgame.   Not sure how these folks aren't aware of that by now.   

Don't play silly, we're well aware of, at least I am, what your thoughts are about the future the gaming landscape and your computers.

[Steve]

• Repeaters are the key to win.
• The past spins influence the future spins.
• Hot numbers mean they are more likely to spin again soon.
• You can change the math of the game with hot numbers.
• It's pointless to test lots of spins because you'll never play lots of spins.
• Every expert in the field of gaming is wrong. They have ulterior motives, like me.
• Statisticians are wrong. They have ulterior motives, like me.
• I'm all against these facts, because it's a conspiracy to sell roulette computers.
• The Parx players make hundreds of millions in fake money, playing slots. They are too busy to play for real.
• Turbo has the holy grail. He proved it with fun money. But he isn't really interested in making millions in real money.

If you believe all that. Then frankly, you're an idiot.

It is a knee-jerk reaction and narrow-sighted to assume that I have a hidden agenda. You dont know me Moxy. I'm as direct and straight-shooting as they get. Despite the trash you might think you know about me, I'm as honest as people get.

My motivation for explaining everything is exactly as I stated. It has nothing to do with sales of anything. I have many different products and businesses in many different industries. I'm in a comfortable position.

Most people might be, but I'm not motivated by money. That's one of the blinders for people to understand my simple motives.  I care far more about honesty and integrity. And when someone calls me a liar, well that's sand in my crotch.

You are free to believe your bulletpoint fairytales.

[cht]

Don't forget this one. 

I've been doing this now for over 3 decades

[Moxy]

• Repeaters are the key to win.
• The past spins influence the future spins.
• Hot numbers mean they are more likely to spin again soon.
• You can change the math of the game with hot numbers.
• It's pointless to test lots of spins because you'll never play lots of spins.
• Every expert in the field of gaming is wrong. They have ulterior motives, like me.
• Statisticians are wrong. They have ulterior motives, like me.
• I'm all against these facts, because it's a conspiracy to sell roulette computers.
• The Parx players make hundreds of millions in fake money, playing slots. They are too busy to play for real.
• Turbo has the holy grail. He proved it with fun money. But he isn't really interested in making millions in real money.

If you believe all that. Then frankly, you're an idiot.

It is a knee-jerk reaction and narrow-sighted to assume that I have a hidden agenda. You dont know me Moxy. I'm as direct and straight-shooting as they get. Despite the trash you might think you know about me, I'm as honest as people get.

My motivation for explaining everything is exactly as I stated. It has nothing to do with sales of anything. I have many different products and businesses in many different industries. I'm in a comfortable position.

Most people might be, but I'm not motivated by money. That's one of the blinders for people to understand my simple motives.  I care far more about honesty and integrity. And when someone calls me a liar, well that's sand in my crotch.

You are free to believe your bulletpoint fairytales.

You obviously got me pegged wrong.  I'm well aware of their fallacies.  You're waiting for someone to magically come up with something so you can take it off their hands for relatively and insultingly cheap, maybe even for free.

You're post about being uncertain i.e. concerned about the casino landscape and your continued efficacy of your computer says otherwise about "not being about the money".  It could be favorable for a long time or shut down with a drop of a hat is the gist of what you were implying.  You are not trying to sell your computer so much as you are trying to find the hg via these members on here is the point.

Not sure if you are yanking my chain.  We've had this conversation before in some form or another. 

[Steve]

Why did I add the "outside the box" area?

Why did I suggest "less-explored" and potential valid ways that have nothing to do with AP?

Is it a coincidence that what I say coincides with what every other reputable gaming expert says? (We're in on it together?)

It is an unfortunate fact that most people on gambling forums have very poor knowledge. The level of ignorance is so high that gaming experts literally laugh at members, and joke about it. You can read some of their comments on insider-forums, although they aren't usually public. Casino's profit and thrive from the ignorance of players. Casino owners love seeing people chase hot numbers, cold numbers, repeaters blah blah.

Any legitimate professional takes basic knowledge for granted. It's not questioned. It is just known, because of understanding of the real world. System players tend to be like lost sheep baaing and bumping into each other, accusing the big bad APs from ruining their party.

But you know I was one of them too. All APs were at one stage, until we woke up and wondering what the fuck we were thinking.

[Steve]

You obviously got me pegged wrong.  I'm well aware of their fallacies. 

You accused me of pushing an agenda (manipulating) for self-serving purposes. That's as good as calling me a liar.

I'm well aware of their fallacies. 

Then i suppose I should shut up and not share experience, in case people think I have an agenda.

You're waiting for someone to magically come up with something so you can take it off their hands for relatively and insultingly cheap.

$100,000 is cheap for the HG. But you know, I'm not forcing any HG owner to sell it to me, am I?

You know i already have my methods to beat roulette, which I'm pretty happy with. I don't NEED anything else. I also don't NEED additional income. So if nobody accepts my offer, whoopie.

You're post about being uncertain i.e. concerned about the casino landscape and your continued efficacy of your computer says otherwise about "not being about the money".  It could be favorable for a long time or shut down with a drop of a hat is the gist of what you were implying.

Sure it could. I've said it before. It's possible the casinos collectively make changes of some kind that make computers obsolete. It's possible, but unlikely. Virtually nothing has changed in the past 15 years. The latest change casinos made are RRS which randomizes rotor speed after bets close. And ultimately it about halves a computer's edge. From perhaps 80% to 40%, which isnt really a problem.

I have put a lot of time, money and effort into developing my methods and technology. But one day i'll be dead. Nothing lasts forever. I'm getting older, and give a shit less and less. Plus I'm already comfortable with my financial situation. Even if everything related to roulette AP went to shit, woopie. It wouldnt realistically happen, but let's say it did. If I really wanted to remain in the gaming industry, I'd complete development of my technology to see through cards, and focus on blackjack. I have already done everything I wanted to do in roulette and gaming in general. Now as I'm getting older I'm more focused on other things. Roulette to me is more an intellectual thing. It is not my first choice to make money. I would discuss my other companies but then the usual dickheads would post blatant lies about them.

[Moxy]

Why did I add the "outside the box" area?

Why did I suggest "less-explored" and potential valid ways that have nothing to do with AP?

Is it a coincidence that what I say coincides with what every other reputable gaming expert says? (We're in on it together?)

It is an unfortunate fact that most people on gambling forums have very poor knowledge. The level of ignorance is so high that gaming experts literally laugh at members, and joke about it. You can read some of their comments on insider-forums, although they aren't usually public. Casino's profit and thrive from the ignorance of players. Casino owners love seeing people chase hot numbers, cold numbers, repeaters blah blah.

Any legitimate professional takes basic knowledge for granted. It's not questioned. It is just known, because of understanding of the real world. System players tend to be like lost sheep baaing and bumping into each other, accusing the big bad APs from ruining their party.

But you know I was one of them too. All APs were at one stage, until we woke up and wondering what the f*** we were thinking.

Outside the box is a genius ploy.  Because it takes it from the conformity and restriction of math to the unexplored which gives it at least a better shot at a hg.   As I reiterate your endgame, you would eventually want to take it off their hands either for free or relatively cheap i.e. 100k.  Free, preferably. 

To answer you last post, well then take your offer off the table, go off into the sunset then.  Quit fishing for something you haven't bothered to explore then, you dubiously opportunistic, old fogie.  You said you are old so....

[Steve]

And if I had the HG, I would create software for other players to access it remotely - in a way that would greatly reduce the chances of it being reverse engineered. But it would still allow me securely profit from it for at least some time. That's what I've done with my roulette system, and hybrid computer.

And when I was done with it, I would release it to people who would be responsible. For example, people who would at least help others too as I do with my foundation and humanitarian projects. Giving it to everyone for free is recipe for disaster. It would mean people who didn't earn or deserve it will benefit, and spoil it for people who did deserve it.

[Moxy]

I guess you are just cheapskate old fogie spending, maybe wasting, a lot of your time on here rather than more important things as you stated.

[Moxy]

And if I had the HG, I would create software for other players to access it remotely - in a way that would greatly reduce the chances of it being reverse engineered. But it would still allow me securely profit from it for at least some time. That's what I've done with my roulette system, and hybrid computer.

And when I was done with it, I would release it to people who would be responsible. For example, people who would at least help others too as I do with my foundation and humanitarian projects. Giving it to everyone for free is recipe for disaster. It would mean people who didn't earn or deserve it will benefit, and spoil it for people who did deserve it.

That's exactly my point.  You don't want sell or people to reverse engineer your hg; you still want control over it and distribution.  Yet you are fishing for the hg with your insultingly cheap offer or even for free preferably and yet the contradiction flies over your head again.  Having your cake and eating it too.

Don't you see it?

[Steve]

Outside the box is a genius ploy

ploy
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noun
a cunning plan or action designed to turn a situation to one's own advantage.
"the president has dismissed the referendum as a ploy to buy time"
an activity done for amusement.
"the eternal cross-stitch I was set to do before I could indulge my own ploys"

Wow are you really that cynical? You know, there really are people with good intentions around - who even if they were in a bad position, would still prefer to be honest and disadvantaged, than dishonest for personal gain. I sincerely pitty anyone with such a negative view. It's like a dark cloud above them. Or maybe you just dont know me at all.

Because it takes it from the conformity and restriction of math to the unexplored which gives it at least a better shot at a hg

No the math never changes. It's always there. Changing the odds is not specifically changing the math. It's more like understanding cause and effect.

As I reiterate your endgame, you would eventually want to take it off their hands either for free or relatively cheap i.e. 100k.  Free, preferably. 

Actually I would credit them with the discovery. But would I use it myself? Yes. But if they somehow accidentally disclosed it to me, then I would look for a way to compensate them. Others may not, but I appreciate value, honesty and integrity.

To answer you last post, well then take your offer off the table, go off into the sunset then.  Quit fishing for something you haven't bothered to explore then, you dubiously opportunistic, old fogie.  You said you are old so....

My offer? You make it sound like it is some Earth-shattering part of my life. No, it's just an offer.

And I have explored it. For around 10-15 years. But I eventually concluded I was wasting my time because there were ALREADY viable methods to beat roulette.

you dubiously opportunistic, old fogie

Um not that old. I mean "older" as in wiser. I'm 41. I'm not a 25 year-old dickhead anymore.

[Steve]

You don't want sell or people to reverse engineer your hg; you still want control over it and distribution.  Yet you are fishing for the hg with your insultingly cheap offer or even for free preferably and yet the contradiction flies over your head again.  Having your cake and eating it too. Don't you see it?

I explained why I wouldn't just release it to every undeserving nitwit. If everyone had it, which includes the casinos, then it would be useless.  Read back what I said I'd do. Anyway now you are just speaking shit.