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My opinion on what qualifies as the holy grail.

Started by Tagu1, Nov 22, 09:16 AM 2017

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Andre Chass

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 22, 04:05 PM 2017
my method is based on physics and stats... i use the data to estimate the speed...
i have complex algorithm (i wrote myself) to predict the sector where the ball will fall on.
i divide the wheel in three equal sectors and i bet on the two top sectors.... the system is a real-time solution as no need to wait for trigger /or sleeping etc...

I have a software that predicts the sector, but I have not used it real game
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Tagu1 on Nov 22, 04:03 PM 2017
yoo i'm giving him conditions. Not a system. Two completely different things.

I don't use system. I use strategy...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Tagu1

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 22, 04:10 PM 2017
I don't use system. I use strategy...

If I were you after those 4 hours I would be studying another way to make money outside of roulette. Rich gets richer for a reason. There are safe trades you can make with 10k bank rolls. HELL I know a trading system that needs 2k that makes 200 a day with a 70% win rate. losses automatically stop at a £50. Find connections, mentors a lot of pros will take you seriously if you show them you are self made.

I know a guy who made 220k in 3 months playing pocket count roulette in my local casino. If i were making 300 a day I am sure he would trade his system with me.

If I made 50k playing roulette I would walk the f*** away I dont care how good my 'strat' is
When it comes to achieving financial security hard work is only temporary.

Andre Chass

Quote from: Tagu1 on Nov 22, 04:15 PM 2017
If I were you after those 4 hours I would be studying another way to make money outside of roulette. Rich gets richer for a reason. There are safe trades you can make with 10k bank rolls. HELL I know a trading system that needs 2k that makes 200 a day with a 70% win rate. losses automatically stop at a £50. Find connections, mentors a lot of pros will take you seriously if you show them you are self made.

Which trade system do you know?

I know a guy who made 220k in 3 months playing pocket count roulette in my local casino. If i were making 300 a day I am sure he would trade his system with me.

Looks like you don't believe I'm making 300 bucks a day. I did not understand what u mean...
220.000 in 3 months?


If I made 50k playing roulette I would walk the f*** away I dont care how good my 'strat' is
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Tagu1

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 22, 04:40 PM 2017Report to moderator     Logged

I believe you. Your system makes sense. In fact it would be pretty unlucky to lose. And its a german stock market system DAX you bet for a gap to close or open. I can send you the pdf if you wish ? A lot of studying to do on it. its got 22 pages on each part. (4 parts) But the concept is easy.
When it comes to achieving financial security hard work is only temporary.

Andre Chass

Quote from: Tagu1 on Nov 22, 04:47 PM 2017
I believe you. Your system makes sense. In fact it would be pretty unlucky to lose. And its a german stock market system DAX you bet for a gap to close or open. I can send you the pdf if you wish ? A lot of studying to do on it. its got 22 pages on each part. (4 parts) But the concept is easy.

I think we both think and play similarly.
You are a hit and run player like me!

Could you send it to me? I will appreciate it
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Tagu1

Yes we do. I love the ol' hit and run. No messing about you know if you've won or lost straight away. Drop me an email and ill send it over. I haven't dug deep to find this. With proper motivation you could find better.
When it comes to achieving financial security hard work is only temporary.

Andre Chass

Quote from: Tagu1 on Nov 22, 04:57 PM 2017
Yes we do. I love the ol' hit and run. No messing about you know if you've won or lost straight away. Drop me an email and ill send it over. I haven't dug deep to find this. With proper motivation you could find better.

I sent you a mb
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

cht

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 22, 03:23 PM 2017
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Tagu, what do you think about the result here?
i bet 24 numbers (24 $ with a profit of 12 $)
Plot your lw result on a graph, w=+1, l=-2

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 22, 05:08 PM 2017
I sent you a mb
Dax has a higher pip value compared to the usual fx pairs. Plus dax can move quickly with high volatility. It's now trading at all time high. It can be too challenging for someone new to trading.

Steve

As I see, the definition of the "holy grail" is:

"A mechanical system, free of any guesswork, which is continually more likely to profit the more it is applied, on either fair RNG or real wheel spins."

Keep in mind:

* It must be "fair' RNG or real spins

* Any two people using the same system on the same spins would make exactly the same bets (mechanical system)

* Either a winning or losing system can win or lose in the short term. BUT a genuine winning system is more likely to win, the more you play. Which is why I used the words "more likely to profit the more it is applied".

My advice is the holy grail may exist, but you are more likely wasting time trying to find it.

All business is risk vs reward. In the case of pursuing the holy grail, the chances are you wont find it - you risk loads of wasted time. The potential reward is lots of easy money. The reward sounds great, but I think the risk of wasted time far outweighs the reward because much money do you really need to be comfortable? And the limit to winnings is still what casinos will allow.

There are easier ways to make money than roulette. But it is more than money - it's an intellectual pursuit, that also pays well if done right.
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Tagu1

Quote from: Steve on Nov 22, 09:26 PM 2017
As I see, the definition of the "holy grail" is:

"A mechanical system, free of any guesswork, which is continually more likely to profit the more it is applied, on either fair RNG or real wheel spins."

Keep in mind:

* It must be "fair' RNG or real spins

* Any two people using the same system on the same spins would make exactly the same bets (mechanical system)

* Either a winning or losing system can win or lose in the short term. BUT a genuine winning system is more likely to win, the more you play. Which is why I used the words "more likely to profit the more it is applied".

My advice is the holy grail may exist, but you are more likely wasting time trying to find it.

All business is risk vs reward. In the case of pursuing the holy grail, the chances are you wont find it - you risk loads of wasted time. The potential reward is lots of easy money. The reward sounds great, but I think the risk of wasted time far outweighs the reward because much money do you really need to be comfortable? And the limit to winnings is still what casinos will allow.

There are easier ways to make money than roulette. But it is more than money - it's an intellectual pursuit, that also pays well if done right.

Interesting.
When it comes to achieving financial security hard work is only temporary.

ozon

Tagu

Can you send me the system on GAPS on DAX.
Will send you an email to me in PM.
Some time ago I read about GAPs, but their play was very difficult due to the extended spread by brokers, during their appearances.

cht

Quote from: Steve on Nov 22, 09:26 PM 2017
As I see, the definition of the "holy grail" is:

"A mechanical system, free of any guesswork, which is continually more likely to profit the more it is applied, on either fair RNG or real wheel spins."

Keep in mind:

* It must be "fair' RNG or real spins

* Any two people using the same system on the same spins would make exactly the same bets (mechanical system)

* Either a winning or losing system can win or lose in the short term. BUT a genuine winning system is more likely to win, the more you play. Which is why I used the words "more likely to profit the more it is applied".

My advice is the holy grail may exist, but you are more likely wasting time trying to find it.

All business is risk vs reward. In the case of pursuing the holy grail, the chances are you wont find it - you risk loads of wasted time. The potential reward is lots of easy money. The reward sounds great, but I think the risk of wasted time far outweighs the reward because much money do you really need to be comfortable? And the limit to winnings is still what casinos will allow.

There are easier ways to make money than roulette. But it is more than money - it's an intellectual pursuit, that also pays well if done right.

Why waste your life on casino games when winnings is limited ? If you love to gamble, I suggest sportsbet, especially football. You can win a lot more if you're good at reading odds.


Moxy

Quote from: Steve on Nov 22, 09:26 PM 2017


But it is more than money - it's an intellectual pursuit, that also pays well if done right.

Somehow I get the impression your offer albeit insufficient states otherwise. 




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