Hot and Cold Numbers Fallacy

[Andre Chass]

The best way to sum up the logic behind these facts is by saying that the roulette ball has no memory.
However this fact does not stop from insisting on betting on cold numbers which haven’t hit for a while or hot numbers which have accidentally happen few times in the row. The thought process behind this is that since this number hasn’t hit lately. The cold number is more likely to hit on future spins or if the number has been hit few times in the row the hot roulette wheel has a memory and will pick the hot number again.
This, of course, is a fallacy, as it could be a very long time before these cold or hot numbers hit, just as they could conceivably hit 10 of the next 30 spins. You could be broke long before any of these cold or hot numbers finally get around to being the winning number. Even the best bankroll management technique will not save you from losing all your money if you believe in this roulette myth.

[Madi]

So whats left to play?

[ozon]

Interestingly, for me still the difficulty remains as to identify hot numbers and play for them.

But one thing I know is that ,cold numbers are almost never able to catch up ultra hot numbers.

As I wrote today in another thread, the tests even showed it, the worst bet is the ultra cold bet.

[Andre Chass]

I've been talking to a colleague. A respected math teacher in my town and a roulette enthusiast. He told me that he studied roulette for several years. He made a lot of money and lost a lot of money. He studied all the strategies, systems, and possibilities. The conclusion he got is that players should bet for fun. You can make some money in the short term, but probably when you return to the casino, sooner or later you will lose what you have won. He says players go in circles trying to get an edge with the same old approaches that have been tested for decades. By the end, he explained to me that the only way to beat roulette is by predicting the sectors of the wheel. Bet on the wheel and play for fun without expecting to get "rich".
The only way to make lots of money on roulette is the luck factor and you already have lots of money to take the risk. Only those who have lots of money will make lots of money. If you bet 30.000 on a single number and it hit, you'll be a millionaire.

[ozon]

Saying that all the strategies have already been tested by someone is nonsense.
No one is ever able to check all the concepts, if he says he did it, he has a closed mind. And is not open to new possibilities.
Only you think that people are  not  able inventing new concepts here, it is little  bit  kindergarten, real big thinkers, they are on forums about forex and finnacial markets, there are some first-league guys, sometimes their ideas are  so advanced, that  knocks me down.

[Ratwood85]

hot numbers is difficult to determined because it always change time after time..
for example, #22 is the top hot number in 500spins. but sometimes if you track the last 37spins it even didn't came out, sometimes it appear only once, and sometimes it appear more than once. it was unpredictable.. people who win in roulette they can predict the future or maybe you can ask he/she about your future based on your life history #LOL..
even if we play sector bet like slicing the wheel into 4part.
Part A : 32-34
Part B : 6-10
Part C : 5-9
Part D : 22-26
(i always use this method, i dont care about number, i care about sector).

[Roulettebeater]

So whats left to play?

Instead of hot or cold ... play on average numbers

[Roulettebeater]

I've been talking to a colleague. A respected math teacher in my town and a roulette enthusiast. He told me that he studied roulette for several years. He made a lot of money and lost a lot of money. He studied all the strategies, systems, and possibilities. The conclusion he got is that players should bet for fun. You can make some money in the short term, but probably when you return to the casino, sooner or later you will lose what you have won. He says players go in circles trying to get an edge with the same old approaches that have been tested for decades. By the end, he explained to me that the only way to beat roulette is by predicting the sectors of the wheel. Bet on the wheel and play for fun without expecting to get "rich".
The only way to make lots of money on roulette is the luck factor and you already have lots of money to take the risk. Only those who have lots of money will make lots of money. If you bet 30.000 on a single number and it hit, you'll be a millionaire.

I dunno but I have strong feeling that your colleague is a very wise man

[Madi]

Instead of hot or cold ... play on average numbers

Average comes from where? Definitely from cold.

[Roulettebeater]

Average comes from where? Definitely from cold.

Represent 100 consecutive spins in a chart, you will see hot, cold and average.

Don't bet neither on hot nor or cold.
Bet on average you will hit some

[Madi]

Ye right. When you play first spin u wont get any average. What u r playing is cold. The numbers u bet at first spin may not show in last 50 spin.

[iar000]

hot numbers is difficult to determined because it always change time after time..
for example, #22 is the top hot number in 500spins. but sometimes if you track the last 37spins it even didn't came out, sometimes it appear only once, and sometimes it appear more than once. it was unpredictable.. people who win in roulette they can predict the future or maybe you can ask he/she about your future based on your life history #LOL..
even if we play sector bet like slicing the wheel into 4part.
Part A : 32-34
Part B : 6-10
Part C : 5-9
Part D : 22-26
(i always use this method, i dont care about number, i care about sector).

Ok.... And how do you play sectors roulette ... Give an example
Thanks

[Steve]

Trace back everything that happens in a spin from the winning number to ball release, and other spins.

Very carefully and thoroughly test each part, and find which part is random or not. Dont assume all wheels and conditions are the same.

If any part of the chain is unpredictable, the odds don't change.  Its a 0 in the equation.

You'll be surprised. Spins from most wheels are far from random.

[Roulettebeater]

Trace back everything that happens in a spin from the winning number to ball release, and other spins.

Very carefully and thoroughly test each part, and find which part is random or not. Dont assume all wheels and conditions are the same.

If any part of the chain is unpredictable, the odds don't change.  Its a 0 in the equation.

You'll be surprised. Spins from most wheels are far from random.

That reminds me of someone who wanted to take luck out of gambling - he ended searching for period of
Non randomness inside random sequences

[Andre Chass]

As most of the players in this forum already know, I am a hit and run player. I only make one single bet per day. I cover 32 numbers and leave one sector (5 numbers) uncovered. I wait this sector hit 4 times and then I place the bet. This strategy can take about 4 hours of my time, however I am having good profits and rare losses. I've tested more than a million spins on RX and it's very difficult the same sector hit more than 5 times. Many players will say it does not work and this is a waiting game, but it's working for me.