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Repeats Prog Method

Started by Andre Chass, Dec 27, 03:04 PM 2017

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Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Jan 03, 08:43 PM 2018
For online casino, play with autobot.

If you play 8 steps progression, be aware you are open to disconnection.

For b&m casino, there are 20-24 history spins for electronic table games(etg). Rotate your scan over a few nearby etg in your location. Work with partners to increase your scope.

I use a bot to place the bets. It's almost impossible play the strategy without a bot because the table allows only 20 sec.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Jan 03, 08:16 PM 2018
You have 2 choices -

1. Wait for the formation of a >=16 unique and start betting on a 4-step progression, or

2. Wait for the formation of a >=16 unique, wait again for the formation of a >= 12 unique that follows immediately and start betting on a 4-step progression

I didn't understand the 2 choices.


To speed up your play, scan multiple tables for the setup.

I already do that.


I'll study what you proposed.

Thank you for the support!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on Jan 03, 08:52 PM 2018
I use a bot to place the bets. It's almost impossible play the strategy without a bot because the table allows only 20 sec.
Can you share with me the bot you play with pls. I'm new to online betting. TQ

Try to understand the post I made above. It's a detail math representation of progression bet sizing that few people properly understand the actual implication of it's use(common understanding is to try to circumnavigate variance which falls under gamblers fallacy). There's another aspect to it but that's another story for another time.

cht

Here's the updated excel sheet. Play with the F9 key, find out on average how many 20-30 spin sequence you need to achieve say a total of 4 games.

cht

The cumulative table looks like this -

8 steps progression

12 x 1chip   = total chips loss 12 chips - win 24 chips, net win 24 chips
13 x 1chip   = total chips loss 25 chips - win 23 chips, net win 11 chips
14 x 2chip   = total chips loss 53 chips - win 44 chips, net win 19 chips
15 x 3chip   = total chips loss 98 chips - win 63 chips, net win 10 chips
16 x 4chip   = total chips loss 162 chips - win 80 chips, net loss -18 chips
17 x 6chip   = total chips loss 264 chips - win 114 chips, net loss -48 chips
18 x 9chip   = total chips loss 426 chips - win 162 chips, net loss -102 chips
19 x 14chip = total chips loss 692 chips - win 238 chips, net loss -188 chips

4 steps progression(based on my proposed betselection)

12 x 1chip   = total chips loss 12 chips - win 24 chips, net win 24 chips
13 x 1chip   = total chips loss 25 chips - win 23 chips, net win 11 chips
14 x 2chip   = total chips loss 53 chips - win 44 chips, net win 19 chips
15 x 3chip   = total chips loss 98 chips - win 63 chips, net win 10 chips

Based on your bet sizing, the 1st 4 steps returns net profit and the next 4 steps returns net loss.

For 8 steps progression, if you avoid the 5th step onwards you might double your br after >= 43 games.
For 4 steps progression, if you avoid the 5th step loss you might double your br after >= 6 games.
(earlier projection is wrong.)

cht

Disclaimer - The proposed betselection has a negative expectancy.

Madi

Quote from: cht on Jan 03, 11:00 PM 2018
Disclaimer - The proposed betselection has a negative expectancy.

Whats the point then? Fun?

cht

Quote from: Madi on Jan 03, 11:25 PM 2018
Whats the point then? Fun?
Yes fun to me.

Most members on forums are hobbyist cents punters, many have losses well above $10k+ though they wouldn't want to admit in public (forum) instead lying they are breakeven or small winners/losers - you think I'm daft ?

All are net losers with occasional win in between. This group of members are hoping to find the hg to recoup their losses and a few real noobs who hope to supplement their meagre income(income no enough)

By engaging all these people by providing them the tools and practical math facts, they get a better understanding of the shitty gambling they now indulge in. Hopefully, they are not that dunce to make a better informed judgement for themselves.

Instead of posting 1 or 2 liner nay post which mostly is taken as from a negative person or another loser. Remember they want to listen to winners, they are the gurus who will show them the way, a saviour to the lost sheeps which you , steve, a few sober members are fully aware that's a huge BS.

I did gain however little from forums, my community service in return just this once, tbh more driven by the stench of the BS.  :twisted:

Andre Chass

What the hell is going on here?

This thread is for sharing ideas and improve the strategy. If someone doesn't like the thread get out of here.
Go do something better.

Don't soil the thread, please. Go fight in another place.

Can the strategy lose? Of course, it's a game, it's roulette. If there was a way to always win, the casinos would close the doors.

Take it easy.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Proofreaders2000

ita Andre

For this to work we need lots of positive energy.

This fascinates me for two reasons:

Vaddis' system was similar to
this (and no one could figure it out)

Andre is very close to doing so imo.

There was another system involving tracking 24 spins
and 12 numbers hitting once in the next 12 spins.

(no one could figure the missing pieces in that one either)

cht

Andre, I hv tested your method with my betselsection with a slight adjustment on my excel sheet with random numbers and the result looks good. Good enough to make some real money.  :xd:

Here's the exact betselection -

1. Wait for 16 unique with max 1 repeat.

2. Starting from the next spin, count 12 unique (there might be repeats but ignore them)

3. First spin after 12 unique, if repeat no bet, sequence ended

4. First spin after 12 unique is unique, bet for repeat 3 steps progression 53 chips br(more realistic than 692 chips)

5. Each win is average +16 chips

According to my short test, the result for 40 spin sequence of 30 spins each is -

1st try - 8 wins and 1 loss
2nd try - 11wins and 1 loss

Idk if it will win itlr with positive expectancy unless roulettebeater or someone competent help test it with large data sample.

Meanwhile, people can you contribute by clicking the F9 key to report what the random spins result is. Or paste real spins of a set of 30 spins then report what the result says. Contribute with your effort pls. TQ

I really hope to see accurate positive and negative results posted below.

Roulettebeater and all rx code masters, pls test this betselection, tell us if it's another shit or there may be something here. TQ

cht

I want to believe most members here are normal honest good people and not freeloaders or marketers on here to steal the system to sell on ebay.  >:(

Andre's method deserves thorough robust testing and to achieve that we need to pool our effort to find that out. Time to roll up your sleeve and put in the help we need. And shut the farking negative gap, we're not stupid !

Post below VVV your results. Make sure you do the test accurately, if you don't understand ask specific question, I'll explain. B4 that read all the recent post I make to get you up to speed what this discussion is all about.

Ok, time to go out, be back later.

cht

B4 I forget, reminder - don't go betting real money this shit until it's properly tested. It's just beta testing stage with possible potential only !!!

6th-sense

Has anyone thought about about just betting the numbers that are red or black of the uniques  following the last spun colour out? If you are guaranteed near enough a repeat the colours red and black would have to alternate rbrbrbrb or brbrbrbr for you to lose ...less money to place and to lose and maybe higher profits just a thought

Andre Chass

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 04, 02:46 AM 2018
Has anyone thought about about just betting the numbers that are red or black of the uniques  following the last spun colour out? If you are guaranteed near enough a repeat the colours red and black would have to alternate rbrbrbrb or brbrbrbr for you to lose ...less money to place and to lose and maybe higher profits just a thought

Thanks for sharing!

I have already tested this and it works only in the short term. There's no way to use progression betting this way.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

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