Repeats Prog Method

[Andre Chass]

I still think this is a decent repeater method....

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15715.0

Thanks a lot!
I will study the method.

Are you still playing it? How about the results?

[Steve]

Denzie, please stop busting Andre's balls. You dont have to agree with or like anyone, but please stop the snide comments towards him.

[cht]

Last time my numbers:

from 1,040,000 37spin cycles
there are only 211,766 cycles with 24 numbers appeared
the LOTT says the correct average is 13 unhit (or14?) 14 once appeared (or 13???) and 10 repeaters.
The LOTT combination appeared only 41,013 times.( about 5-6%)

You have to decide whom you will believe.

Thanks for the stats winkel, I appreciate it.

[Andre Chass]

I have tested this method based on the Vaddis Method. Still requires a lot of testing.

"If you are betting on 8 numbers and they are not hit, then you would remove the oldest number in your 8-set and add the number that just landed. So, you are changing your 8-number by one number after each wheel spin.

That means that each number of your 8-number set is placed 8 times on the table.

There are only two phases:

* 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 (stepped sequence)

* 8-blocks

For 8-blocks example: say you miss all 8 of ...

2
7
9
12
16
3
36
29

Let's say that the last number landed that missed your 8-set is 20.

Then your next 8-bet is ...

20
2
7
9
12
16
3
36

If you now get a hit on 12, your next 8-bet is ...

12
20
2
7
9
12
16
3

However, in this 8-set, you have the same #12, appearing twice, so you actually bet on ...

12, 20, 2, 7, 9, 16, 3 = 7 numbers

So, before you start playing, you look at your bankroll and make a note of the amount.

You begin at the beginning: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8. If you increase your bankroll or break even at this stage, you go back to the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 process and place a single bet on the last landed number that made you win or break even.

If you lose the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 process, you are then at the block stage as described previously:

2
7
9
12
16
3
36
29

etc.

Also, if you break even or increase your bankroll at the block stage in comparison to what your bankroll was at the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 stage, then go back to 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 where you will begin all over again by placing a single chip on the last landed number.

The 37-spin cycle is not of the greatest importance as such, because you can play the system for long period sessions. However, you should make a profit within 185 spins.

Also, for your own knowledge and understanding, it's a good idea to see how your bankroll performs every 37 spins (= 37 bets in terms of single and group bets) and up to the range of 185 spins (= 185 bets in terms of single and group bets).

Of course, 185 = 37 x (5 cycles)

I've played up to 296 spins (8 cycles) and discovered that doing so is a waste of time because better and faster profits are within 24 - 74 spins.

I would say keep the spins below 185 = (5 cycles). You don't have to go this far as a regular occurrence."

[cht]

There is no conclusion to this.

First mistake: "on average" The average is a lie. it is only right at about 22%.
Second mistake: If you bet any sort of numbers you will always have the same mathematical probability:
4 numbers: 4/37
6 numbers: 6/37
12 numbers: 12/37
and so on.

The best way to have a hit on repeaters is the following:
Watch all tables and croupiers. If the croupier or the table shows repeaters back to back: bet all numbers back to back.

On all other betselections referring to LoTT, the math will catch you.

Last time my numbers:

from 1,040,000 37spin cycles
there are only 211,766 cycles with 24 numbers appeared
the LOTT says the correct average is 13 unhit (or14?) 14 once appeared (or 13???) and 10 repeaters.
The LOTT combination appeared only 41,013 times.( about 5-6%)

You have to decide whom you will believe.

I was playing around this, gut trot and Vaddis 8-set numbers. I believe these methods are individually partially right, there are weaknesses in all individual methods. That's why when we play these methods we find that they don't stand up itlr. What if we look at what is right in each method of play, understand in depth, isolate and extract the part that gave the advantage, then put them all together in an optimisation process it may work well enough to give us a viable winning method.

Ofc it's extracting ideas from various source methods posted on forums, so the original part of this idea is - to correctly extract the advantage part of various methods, re-calibrate them, put them together in an optimal manner, then fashion a betselection together with money management to form the complete new optimised method.

[winkel]

I have tested this method based on the Vaddis Method. Still requires a lot of testing.

No testing needed. Just open your eyes. Internet-Casinos offer a quickbet: Last 5 or last 10 numbers.

What do you think why do they do that? Because there is an advantage to the player or there is an advantage to house?

It doesn´t matter if you take 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, ...10,... 24,... 36 numbers. That will make no difference.

[Andre Chass]

Last time my numbers:

from 1,040,000 37spin cycles
there are only 211,766 cycles with 24 numbers appeared
the LOTT says the correct average is 13 unhit (or14?) 14 once appeared (or 13???) and 10 repeaters.
The LOTT combination appeared only 41,013 times.( about 5-6%)

You have to decide whom you will believe.

Winkel, I have a lot of respect for you. I know you're an experienced player and I admire that. But you contradict yourself by saying that I have to choose who to believe: In you or TurboGenius. You have created the GUT method that is based on the law of the third.
TG also uses the same "law" to play roulette.
May I ask if you no longer believe in your own method? Thank you in advance.

link:://:.spam.org/2017/01/great-universal-theory-gut-system-by.html

[Andre Chass]

"GREAT UNIVERSAL THEORY (G.U.T.) SYSTEM BY WINKEL
G.U.T. STRATEGY IN A NUTSHELL
This is one of the most talked about and cryptic roulette strategies and it is based on the law of the third â€" meaning that, on average, in 36 spins one third of the numbers hits once, one third hits more than once and one third doesn’t hit.

Method: Basically GUT revolves around one major bet. Smaller bets are also available.
In a nutshell, (the major bet) you have un-hit and hit once (or more) numbers.

Un-hit  //   Hit
36            0    (when you start playing)


Main bet
As the numbers come in, the unhit numbers will decrease and the hit numbers will increase.
(You have to keep track of the unhit ones (which ones they are)

Unhit   //  Hit (example)
15           15
       or
16           15
Now, when the unhit numbers equal total hit numbers (preferably 18 numbers or less) it is time to bet all of the un-hit numbers one time.

Smaller bets
Of the hit numbers, you can wager when once hit, twice hit or more equal each other…
Example:

Once hit   //   Twice Hit
8                     8
You would bet the 8 once hit numbers (one time)"

[winkel]

... [/b]You have created the GUT method that is based on the law of the third.
TG also uses the same "law" to play roulette.
May I ask if you no longer believe in your own method? Thank you in advance.
.

That GUT is "based" on LoTT is the interpretation of others. (mostly haters).

I refer to the binomial distribution, Kolmogorov and Markov.
LoTT is a wrongly compressed part of the distribution.

[nottophammer]

Nice to see ya Guv, Winkel.
If you have 50 to 60 spins, what is reference point, spin 37
Thanks

[winkel]

Nice to see ya Guv, Winkel.
If you have 50 to 60 spins, what is reference point, spin 37
Thanks

you´re joking, aren´t you?

What is the difference:
The LoTT tells that 24 different numbers appear at spin 37

and

Reference at spin 37:
Sleepers 13# or 14#, once-hit 14# or 13#, twice hit 7#, 3 times hit 3#
and if we have 17# unhit I tell we have a slow trot.
and if we have 9# unhit we have a fast trot.
and either each has an effect to all other groups.

Now I´m off again.
If people hate to think and try to understand what I say, I leave them in their unconsciousness

[nottophammer]

you´re joking, aren´t you? I was being facetious

You said to me in GUT as long as LoTT is present then its a fair RNG, this comment has been true for me. If you can see the trot you should be able to find the repeat.

[nottophammer]

I don't worry about LoTT to much, i'm more watching spins 11-40, that with collected data has an average of 15 point something non-hit numbers, so drop the point thats 15 non-hit in 30 spins. 15 non-hit and 15 repeat.
Below is a game posted 22/2/17 in MPR spins for dexter.
So spins 1-10 gave 10 non-hit, we expect 15 more in spins 11-40, so 10+15=25 non-hit, perfect

Now i'll leave you alone

[winkel]

You said to me in GUT as long as LoTT is present then its a fair RNG, this comment has been true for me. If you can see the trot you should be able to find the repeat.

I didn´t say that in one of the GUT-Threads, I said it when I posted my strategy "Pump it up"

[Andre Chass]

That GUT is "based" on LoTT is the interpretation of others. (mostly haters).

I refer to the binomial distribution, Kolmogorov and Markov.
LoTT is a wrongly compressed part of the distribution.

Winkel, may I ask you what's your best shot? Your ultimate repeats method?