What works and what doesnt??

[cht]

In the context of what I've written above, the word viable means this to me -

1. Initial bankroll is $10,000,

2. Not less than 100% return on entire bankroll within a month or better,

3. Drawdown less than 33%,

4. Risk of ruin is remote,

5. Not more than 8hours of gameplay per day for 5days a week with rest time in between.

After decades of betting, I won't bet a dime if I have none of the above.

[Madi]

The ‘due’ means  due in next spin not in 1000 spin. Yes i also agree with u in next 1000 spin 37 number will appear.and i got very good knowledge about gut. This x spin is just from ur head not from gut. U can finish a game of 60 spin using gut while this very normal u wont see 2 or 3 not showing up. The x spin could be infinity . Invalid debet.

[cht]

"You guys want to argue? Try to beat Roulette or any 50/50 table game with the concepts of a day trader in the stock market. Do you know how many times a day that Roulette goes up and down between mini swings? You can watch swings that are just a few steps from neutral, either side of even, all day long, and every day. You really need to know how to not get killed by the first bullet in a war. Time to get very real." ...... gizmotron2

link:s://:.GF/threads/harvester.9162/#post-43927

Spot on gizmo. That's one quality gold nugget

[cht]

"It's not the group that matters that you wait for. Any group will do. It's the activity of that group that makes an opportunity. So why not have many groups to wait on? In fact, why not be smart enough to see the active group that is working. Train your mind to see many groups, or write an AI program to detects the active group. It's only a flat earth if you are a retard."......gizmotron2

link:s://:.GF/threads/more-theater-of-the-absurd.9177/#post-43924

This guy knows his stuff.

Hey gizmo, 1 spin 6 groups. Is that enough ?  I'm overwhelmed

[sentinel3]

100 to 200 spin as trigger. ‘Trigger’ whats that? Seems something is due after that. Anyway i will leave this trigger things with you.

Simply i can say
My transport cost min $10 for a return trip. 1 minute  per spin roulette may take half of my day to earn $10. 100 spin trigger will take full day

Im using that as an example. Sure it wont work in a walk in casino
But itll work all day online. My question to you madi. Is how long would a system like say pattern breaker have to hold up on a real live casino. Before you would be convinced. It can make money longterm using a limited three step prog?

One year? Two years how long. Before you realize its a winner for as long as someone has the discipline to run it properly. When do I give you my password and username to one of my 8 online accounts. So you can see for yourself. How much money went in. And how much money PB made.

You just let me know. And when the time comes. You will get the details. And see for yourself that roulette can be beaten all year long every year. If its being played by the right mind with the right system. Ive only been playing PB for a few months. But already I can see this simple system is a winner. And starting low stakes ive already doubled my bank. Just tell me what you need to see before you are convinced. If its a year from now. Or however long. If its the bank increased 10 times or 50 times.

To a point you know its never going negative ever. Not when a system that needs 7 wins to every loss. Can win the first bet of the day over 30 times. Several times in just a 100 days.

We are talking reality here. Do you want to see that. Or keep summizing is it or isnt it possible?? Lets get real here.

[ego]

When i read the Ching a Ling topic and can see how he made 30K and had only one total loss with all levels and end up with 28K
Then i know if i copy this method into my own play i can also make 30K as you can see and understand the method is solid.
Win several times and make two year of income. that is no joke, that is the real thing.

Same with Pattern Breaker - when you read someone winning over 400 sessions and only lose 30 sessions - then it has to be something real and you only need to copy what he explain how things is done and you should get same results. That is also the real thing for me.

The point is when i read about members who win and not losing i read and save does topics into PDF document and do some testing by my own and after that decide to play with real money or not - i don't worry about other things like house edge and negativ expectation. I have wagering so much money to know it does not effect me in the short run and i live once and will not place billion of chips and see how the house edge eat up my profits, during that time i am dead.

Cheers

[cht]

There's no problem with some people declaring they win $30K or more betting with systems or methods from the forum. I'm always on the side of the punters that I wish more fellow punters take home more $$$Ks from the casino and I love to read such success stories. 

What's important is to make a note that the method or system is positive or negative expectancy when played in the long run. Call a spade a spade, that's all.

And yes continue to win big playing your way. Tell us all about it.

[sentinel3]

When i read the Ching a Ling topic and can see how he made 30K and had only one total loss with all levels and end up with 28K
Then i know if i copy this method into my own play i can also make 30K as you can see and understand the method is solid.
Win several times and make two year of income. that is no joke, that is the real thing.

Same with Pattern Breaker - when you read someone winning over 400 sessions and only lose 30 sessions - then it has to be something real and you only need to copy what he explain how things is done and you should get same results. That is also the real thing for me.

The point is when i read about members who win and not losing i read and save does topics into PDF document and do some testing by my own and after that decide to play with real money or not - i don't worry about other things like house edge and negativ expectation. I have wagering so much money to know it does not effect me in the short run and i live once and will not place billion of chips and see how the house edge eat up my profits, during that time i am dead.

Cheers

This is what I feel. When someone says you cannot win in the long run. What is long run? As you say we will be dust before we will ever lose our money. If you put any system in a computer it fails over however many spins But a computer is not reality.

It has no connection to a live roulette wheel. It knows not when to quit. When to raise. When to lower money management.

It in no way represents what will be in the real world. Thats why you can only go on the experience of real world testing and results. They give you the reality of what works and what doesnt.

Lets say by end of 2018. Im still winning at a similar rate with PB.

My bank has grown over 15 or 20 times. Im not taking any crazy risk with any game.

Who can say I wont be winning ten or 20 or more years from now. When I start with just 20 euro. And now have 300 or 500. And still I win 12 or more times to every loss. When 7 wins breaks me even.

Some people dont want to see this. They want to keep believing no one wins without using some cheating device.

Nobody can argue with a system if it 20 folds its bank and holds its winning ratio. I will believe nothing but what this system is showing me.

[Madi]

Surely u can win 20 yrs one spin a day which is not even 1000 spin in 20 yrs. and u forget to mention ur internet bill which is couple of times higher than 500. What i understand is a 3 step against bet. Matching with last 7 pattern has nothing to do the with the 8th. A good advice is play 1000, 2000, 4000 just one spin a day will be worth after a yr.

[Madi]

Sorry missed a 0 with thousand

[Madi]

Why ur first game of the day is superior? Any reason behind that?

[Madi]

Why it is not recommended to play as much as u want in a day? Any specific reason behind that?

Ps : i played and tested this yrs b4

[ego]

I will give a super great advice - spend less time to argue as you will feel less mental pressure.
Allow they have there own agenda and opinion - no need to prove or claim the other way around.
This would only take strength from you that is a waste of time as the one you talking to has made up hes mind about the subject no matter what you say or do.

Better to play or learn and study known methods that are known to win and put your mental strength into that agenda.
I spend more then 10 years on gambling forums and waste alot of time and effort ending up with nothing good.
To break that cycle i just stop and ignore does who not have the same agenda as me.

Cheers

[sentinel3]

Why ur first game of the day is superior? Any reason behind that?

I cant tell you that. I only watch those long streaks develope. The less exposure to variance the better. Thats how winning is done.

Yes the value will surely rise with the profits. If I reach a point where I can make 50 euro from one game a day. I Will be playing just one game a day. At that level. Then drop to 10 euro for two more games to add some bonus.

[sentinel3]

I will give a super great advice - spend less time to argue as you will feel less mental pressure.
Allow they have there own agenda and opinion - no need to prove or claim the other way around.
This would only take strength from you that is a waste of time as the one you talking to has made up hes mind about the subject no matter what you say or do.

Better to play or learn and study known methods that are known to win and put your mental strength into that agenda.
I spend more then 10 years on gambling forums and waste alot of time and effort ending up with nothing good.
To break that cycle i just stop and ignore does who not have the same agenda as me.

Cheers

Good advice ego. I argue no more. Results speak and will continue my journey.