Brainstorming LOTT

[celescliff]

Well,

On spins 1-24 it'll be mostly new numbers, and from 24 on, repeaters... so why not.  Some people bet on 35 numbers, hoping not to get repeaters...

Here is a graph of when to expect a third hit within 37 spins on average in 1 million spins.

[Bigbroben]

Ok, thanks!

That is 46884 triples on how many doubles?

[celescliff]

Ok, thanks!

That is 46884 triples on how many doubles?

I never took that into account when coding it. I did this months ago that i wanted to see,  since we can expect a third hit within 24 spins, on average to see how often we can expect it. So basically this just show when a third hit comes and when a third hit has come it resets.

[Bigbroben]

Hi,

I run 2 trials on 5000 spins and checked for repeaters in the last 24 spins.  Turns out there were 2391 and 2397 repeaters (2 hits and more) in all 5000 spins.  That is less than half.

So I did a game where I would flat bet on all numbers that did NOT show up in the last 24 spins, so betting on average on 18 numbers( from 15 to 20 most of the time).  Ended up at +454 units after 200 spins (so 24 spins observed and 176 played).  This is like 2,5 units per spins net, I repeat: flat betting.  Hardly ever more than 4 losses in a row.  The amount of numbers betted on is self regulating.
So when winning a spin, remove the bet on this number.  Check if the number on the last 25th spin appears in the following spins.  If not, bet on it, if so, do not add.

Balance diagram shows some ups and down but really an upward trend, have a look!

I am surprised, so far.  I'll run a few more to see if sustained trend.

[jekhb76]

Hi,

I run 2 trials on 5000 spins and checked for repeaters in the last 24 spins.  Turns out there were 2391 and 2397 repeaters (2 hits and more) in all 5000 spins.  That is less than half.

So I did a game where I would flat bet on all numbers that did NOT show up in the last 24 spins, so betting on average on 18 numbers( from 15 to 20 most of the time).  Ended up at +454 units after 200 spins (so 24 spins observed and 176 played).  This is like 2,5 units per spins net, I repeat: flat betting.  Hardly ever more than 4 losses in a row.  The amount of numbers betted on is self regulating.
So when winning a spin, remove the bet on this number.  Check if the number on the last 25th spin appears in the following spins.  If not, bet on it, if so, do not add.

Balance diagram shows some ups and down but really an upward trend, have a look!

I am surprised, so far.  I'll run a few more to see if sustained trend.

Good observation! Thanks.

[Bigbroben]

Game 2:
274 at spin 200.  Not as impressive but trend clear.  Again: flat bettting.

[Bigbroben]

JEKH,
what's the ratio 2hitters/3hitters?  Grosso modo, nothing too precise...

[nottophammer]

Big Bro
Let me see if i can get this across to some members. you talk of flat betting. Well heres the green graph.

[nottophammer]

So you all see the non-hit column.

 

[nottophammer]

now you see the spins and the repeats.
Now flat betting the non-hit, if you bet from spin 3 flat 35 units you win +1 everyone ok so far. You flat bet all the way to spin 12 where its a loss. But you still flat bet the 26 units and win.

Now whats the total for spin 3 to 25, flat betting total = 585. Theres 17 wins of return 36 units 17*36= 612, a profit

     

[Bigbroben]

3rd

Choppy but positive!

[nottophammer]

Flat bet spin 3 to spin 108 total 1212 units, with 1 non-hit to come and you started betting 35, you've had 34 so the 34 wins flat betting  return 36 so 34*36= 1224 a profit from flat betting

[Bigbroben]

Notto, you suggest flatbetting from the start, then keeping the nrs from last 24 spins?  Yeah, I guess, if positive at 25...

[Bigbroben]

I think the point is to use as little br as possile for max return.  If progression make you lose a lot until payback, the ratio br/profit is not the same.  It only helps get back earlier into profit.

I guess we could compare...

Game 2 was br of 120 for 250 profit.  That was the worse.

[6th-sense]

Can you explain nothammer how you worked that out? It’s way off what I worked out I got +21 units...you are not winning plus 36 units every time hit as you have to minus the bet you placed out in or am I wrong?