Patterns

[Kattila]

Let s talk about....patterns. Are they  good triggers or are useless. My self have good results in the last 3 years using patterns based  systems. Others here have same results or better using own patterns and MM s,  some even think they have found the grail.
    By using triggers we know it s about past spins wich for many are useless.
   In my opinion any pattern system will lose longterm , but depends which pattern use , some can survive to xx xxx spins or even xxx xxx spins. All this in combination with good MMs and some luck, yes luck, will give the impresion for some that they have the HG.  Wake up people , and don t belive anything or anyone, test  if possible for much more spins before play for real.

[Winner]

One should be looking at more on probability then patterns .
Roulette often does not meet its probability ,I think this is where the nuggets are . Building a system on this concept is a start.
Over 12 years of play I have never seen a pattern base system win consistently. Yes it can win but not enough to say I'm a millionare .
Looking for or betting against patterns  are losers because people naturally get bored and inpatient when they start to lose and therefore they make mistakes I have had my share .i like to ask questions on this form just for my  curiosity not because I have not done any research . So Katilla is correct .

[Winner]

Almost forgot if any are interested you can start with every 3 spins and see what it does 3.23 to 1 there is always for most part a repetition .putting into a system of play is where the fun is at.

[cht]

BPPBPPBP

Wait for this baccarat pattern to appear then bet BPB with 1/1/3 progression.

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.msg193307#msg193307

Will this give long run profit betting 3 games a day ?

[Roulettebeater]

Cht

How much time in average do i need to hold at the  baccarat table until your pattern pops up ?



And why don't you play it on roulette same way :

If you have :

BRRBRRBR

Bet RBB with 1-2-4 Progression

?

[Winner]

BPPBPPBP

Wait for this baccarat pattern to appear then bet BPB with 1/1/3 progression.

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.msg193307#msg193307

Will this give long run profit betting 3 games a day ?

Well it seems that it's working for those guys but one day they will get all drunk and give it all back . But I wish the best for them happy winnings .

[cht]

Cht

How much time in average do i need to hold at the  baccarat table until your pattern pops up ?

According to my past data and how Andre tracks 6shoes at a time for 3hrs, the 3 games come in around 20+ shoes.

Perhaps roulette has more losers due to zero.

[Roulettebeater]

According to my past data and how Andre tracks 6shoes at a time for 3hrs, the 3 games come in around 20+ shoes.

Perhaps roulette has more losers due to zero.

U can put one chip on zero !

Charlie Barley was the first one who discovered betting against pattern (permutations betting).

It doesn't work long term, you will enjoy profits if you play only one big bet per day (3 steps marti) , however u can win same profit by playing whatever other system you want, the only thing you have to follow : only one game per day

Nothing is special, next !

[Kattila]

U can put one chip on zero !

Charlie Barley was the first one who discovered betting against pattern (permutations betting).

It doesn't work long term, you will enjoy profits if you play only one big bet per day (3 steps marti) , however u can win same profit by playing whatever other system you want, the only thing you have to follow : only one game per day

Nothing is special, next !

So hit and.....RUN , nothing special just Luck.

[Winner]

So hit and.....RUN , nothing special just Luck.

Hit a run is not a bad thing  casino want you to stay and play that's how they win .read something on a whale the other day took the casino for couple million and was then leaving  to go back home and made sure his plane didn't start .or was it on you tube anyway they got back the 2 mill. And and another mill. Short session is not bad you can't compete with them there 24 hrs .you could work in groups I guess.

[maestro]

if player has way to win no shitty hit and run needed..hit and run does not exist chisel it in your heads

[Kattila]

Back to patterns,
We all know the singles and series on ECs, BRBRBRBRBRBR, BBRRBBRRRBBBRR,
BRRBRRBRRRBRR, RBBBRBBBRRBB, etc...all this can be created by random.

But, if ...we have Always as trigger a kind of pattern like BRBRBRBR.....,
or  BBRRBBRRBBRR....  , in my case groups 1 and 2 ( 121212..../ 11221122...)
So you take what random gives you  and put them into your own order/pattern.
This can be done with streets or splits:

Street / *EC* groups ( singles pattern)

3          1
9          2
2          1
7          2
12        1
8          2
1          1
5          2

Not complete EC groups yet , this are growing groups .
For the moment each group have 4 streets, now can start
betting for the last group to repeat, so against pattern.

next spins

2          1         L1
10        2 new  L2
11        1 new  L3
8          1         W

-------------------------------

Other pattern

Street  /  group (series pattern)

4           1
7           1
11         2
8           2
7           1
9           1
12         2
1           2 now bet against pattern
5           1 new   L1
4           1          L2
8           2          L3
10         2 new   L4
1           2          W

----------------------------

*dozens *  or  *columns* example

Splits      group

5             a
12           b
3             c
8             a
10           b
3             c
14           a
7             b
18           c
6             a
10           b
2             c  bet against,so  bet the last 2 groups
8             a             L1
11           b new      L2
15           c  new     L3
5             a             L4
13           b new      L5
6             a             W

Sooner or later the groups will change the position....
but random      still can catch you sometimes.

[Winner]

Back to patterns,
We all know the singles and series on ECs, BRBRBRBRBRBR, BBRRBBRRRBBBRR,
BRRBRRBRRRBRR, RBBBRBBBRRBB, etc...all this can be created by random.

But, if ...we have Always as trigger a kind of pattern like BRBRBRBR.....,
or  BBRRBBRRBBRR....  , in my case groups 1 and 2 ( 121212..../ 11221122...)
So you take what random gives you  and put them into your own order/pattern.
This can be done with streets or splits:

Street / *EC* groups ( singles pattern)

3          1
9          2
2          1
7          2
12        1
8          2
1          1
5          2

Not complete EC groups yet , this are growing groups .
For the moment each group have 4 streets, now can start
betting for the last group to repeat, so against pattern.

next spins

2          1         L1
10        2 new  L2
11        1 new  L3
8          1         W

-------------------------------

Other pattern

Street  /  group (series pattern)

4           1
7           1
11         2
8           2
7           1
9           1
12         2
1           2 now bet against pattern
5           1 new   L1
4           1          L2
8           2          L3
10         2 new   L4
1           2          W

----------------------------

*dozens *  or  *columns* example

Splits      group

5             a
12           b
3             c
8             a
10           b
3             c
14           a
7             b
18           c
6             a
10           b
2             c  bet against,so  bet the last 2 groups
8             a             L1
11           b new      L2
15           c  new     L3
5             a             L4
13           b new      L5
6             a             W

Sooner or later the groups will change the position....
but random      still can catch you sometimes.
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Agree and you will sweat