Add-up test

[Bigbroben]

So 70th spin you laid 70 units on the table, thats 2485 units used if placing 1 unit every spin, its the soft prog 1,2,3,4,5 as by now some #'s will be having 2,3,4 or 5 units placed

2485/36=69.02 wins, so you need the hot #'s to be repeating fast

37 spins is 703 units and needs 20 wins at return of 36 yes 35+1, obviously earlier the repeats happen earlier you reset, is that right

Actually I gave up on adding 1u everywhere: too costly.

So 70u would be in 70 spins.  Organically growing stakes...

[Bigbroben]

So, if reseting after new high, things stay under control.
Could this method always remain in negative territory and never reaching new high?  Certainly, if repeaters are long to come out and no hot nr (3xrep or +) anywhere...

[nottophammer]

i did this once in the bookies some time ago after talking to Denzie about bet every spin, FAILED on their RNG, its a bit like where you're testing at the moment, all methods seem to win,too easily, or the methods, whether TG repeats, KTF, or VdW and look who's #1, wiggy with VdW, just saying try it on MPR, now thats a different monster, crashes, fast spins, table limit of 100

[daveylibra]

Hi, just my thoughts on this...

Remember Turbo talking about 37 players each playing 1 unit on a number only after it shows?
Well I think what you are doing is similar. Imagine, on the 2nd spin, another 37 guys showing up. On the 3rd spin, another 37!
Now, as I've said before, Turbo claims that these 37 players playing this way reduces the house edge to 0.
If this is true, what would a profit/loss graph look like? Would it oscillate around 0?
If so, would this be enough? I can't work out whether it would be valid to say we can just stop when in profit and reset. Or would it be the same as playing a continuous game, and we would average 0?
Or maybe we can play this way and start only on 2-shows?
& you say you have stopped adding 1 unit each time. So are you flat betting?
A lot of "ifs and buts!"
Any thoughts guys?

[nottophammer]

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You can see he starts betting after 6/7 spins and is a 1000 down at spin 24/25 how many numbers being bet, the win nearly clears the debt of a 1000, 25chip is 900

Can we say at spin 10 its 9/10 one # repeated, my avg for 11-20 is 7 more non-hit come, so if 3 more #'s have repeated at 20 spins is he betting 4#'s or just 1# the latest repeat the hottest at spin 20

Does TG have a gap for a hot one to win say 20 spins, if say it was 20 spins and he's betting 1 unit till 20 spins go by and no win, does he now go all out for the 25 unit on the latest hot number

I was on MPR just now and #'s 23,25,13,7 are hottest 23 has missed for 20 spins, 25 is dropping of after missing for 20 spins, 13 has two more spins and drops of, #2 joins the 4 hottest, #20 joins as well, the #13 has gone missed for 20 spins, the #7 is still quite hot say 7 spins old.
Now as the 13 has gone i started to bet, i was going to bet just the 4 hottest 20,2,7,13, but decide to bet all 6 hot#'s with 4 hits and #2 dropped in 25 unit,

So the wait paid off, the hottest the 23 had well passed 20 spins no hit, so had the 25 and once the 13 dropped it was time to start betting, but from the graph you see he's betting every spin, is it 1 units and something triggers him to up the unit?

MPR game ringed in black and now i'm back at win rate of 1.0

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[nottophammer]

That game ringed 71 spins only 3 non-hit left

[nottophammer]

how would TG be betting here, spin 11, remember the graph



#33 still no hit, so is it up the unit ?
       

[Bigbroben]

& you say you have stopped adding 1 unit each time. So are you flat betting?
A lot of "ifs and buts!"
Any thoughts guys?

No.  The nr that hits, I put a unit on it.  So you'll get a bunch of 1xs, some 2xs.  After the 81 spins without new high, it is the nrs with 5 or 6 units that saved me.

Anyway, to be sure a system works, it has to work even if the house had no hedge.  Cuz this is what we all are fighting for, right?  Step one would be to make sure it would work with even chances on player and casino...

[Bigbroben]

More than 400 spins.  I like the way it behaves.

This method resembles to jkh's with a less aggressive progression but more nr to bet on.

Room to better ways to play with this, but I like it.

[wiggy]

Looking at your chart above Notto, there is the second triple hitting bang on spin 32. That area was warming up nicely IMO leading up to those two triples with a gap of only 8 (spins 23 to 31) for the 13.

[nottophammer]

Yes wiggy and the hot 4 are 33,34,15,13 as of spin 30

[nottophammer]

Primative i know, start #4, just keep betting the 4 hottest, when another R1 comes dump the coldest of the 4, in this case #24, get the in #13

[daveylibra]

Hi Ben

Just thought of a way you can save a few units.
Wait for a few uniques, I would say you wouldn't have to wait long for 8
Then bet on 'em, and carry on your way.
Saves you the 1st 36 units you would have spent!
How is the system going,still holding up?

[Bigbroben]

Hi,
I am not sure if it's worth waiting for a few spins before to start betting...
Yes, waiting 8 spins before saves you 36 units, but more than half of repeaters come within 8 spins, like 60 something %...
Did  try to start wiht bets on previous nrs untils last repeater: more or less the same.  It is nevertheless a system that relies on hot repeaters to work.  If a repeater comes after 12,13,14,15 spins, and down the road a 3x repeater doesn't come before a first cycle 37 spins) , this system is doomed.  A stop loss must be established...

Happened yesterday in a test, I was back down into red after 100 spins of trying to recover.  Still thinking on where to put a stop-loss....

Still, it is doing ok most of the time...

[daveylibra]

Hi,
How about playing for 74 spins come what may?
That seems to be where your graphs have a peak. A 74 (2x37) session each day.

Alternatively, notice how Turbo says he only plays a few numbers. I think he must, therefore, be playing only 3-shows and above. And then dropping the number 38 spins ago, ie playing a "window" of 37 spins, if you see what I mean. Now whether or not Turbo decides to post again, I don't know. But playing this way, I suspect, would potentially mean playing a longer session. And I would want to avoid a long long session trying to climb back into profit.
Hence I like the set number of spins idea.
Anyone like to add there opinion?