Add-up test

[nottophammer]

Alternatively, notice how Turbo says he only plays a few numbers. I think he must, therefore, be playing only 3-shows and above.

Not here

[daveylibra]

Hi,
I  think I recognise the chart above as one of Turbo's.
What does it show, if I may ask? I can see it is about 1500 down in  about 32 spins.
I think he talks about $25 stakes, that gives us 60 units down in 32 spins.
Many methods could do that.
I hope it doesn't mean 1500 down in 32, or it's not a method for me!
What do you make of it?

[nottophammer]

he's betting from spin6/7, 19/20 spins later he wins, by the lift from the win looks like 900 as he's a 1000 in the hole

Yes at 32 deep in the hole, but he never loses, units being used  ??

[daveylibra]

Hi, I see what you mean.
Notice  36 x 25, so a 25 unit win here.
Next win, looks like 1800, so a 50 unit win here.
First 20 spins, 1000 lost, 100/25 = 40.
So has he made 40 bets, starting with 2-shows?

I'm sure you could analyse this better than me. What do you think?

[nottophammer]

but I may retry on 3rd repeaters

6th
2 games on MPR, both slow to give hot #'s the 1st game i was down 11000 units the 4 hottest did not become profitable untill R5 went R6, then 1 of the hot 4 really went for it, hit total 11 times, got back to 14500 units just down 1500 on starting BR.
second game played just the same 85 spins hot 4#'s very slow to hit, the game just kept changing the hot, untill about  spin75 when the hot started to hit, i had a new high to BR and was typing in chat that the game was just repeating numbers further back in the game, i posted 29, was hot and just as finished typing and hitting send and i'm not betting theres #29, now in the chat window are the 4 hot, 29,1,8,36

so still typing in chat and obviously not betting next # 8, 2 spins later 1, now i was on 25 units, disregard what profit the 29 would have given, but the #8 would been +800, the #1 2 spins +700

Now Maestro does not have a good word for MPR and i agree, it just seems like RNG, perhaps with software watching the bets,
i got a double dozen bet to #1 on board last year then blew the lot, but if try the same method it starts ok building the BR, but then it canes you, you telling me the RFH is now there where last year able to get the DD method to #1 and RFH was not there, think how many spins i had to get to #1 and no RFH

S will come with all the old Bla Bla

Turbo way got the units back with the prog, 85 spins and is RFH there? utilising the prog in a certain way over come the RNG's RFH, Hmm sounds a bit Turbo there

[nottophammer]

6TH
yes perhaps not Turbo way but wait for 4x's the hots come.  in Paddy Power they have a game that gives the 5 hottest over last 500 games, i presumme they mean 500 spins.
So yes wait and like Den says when they become hot 5,6,7 time hitters you should be confident they will come.

[nottophammer]

6TH or any of you heres the 2 games

[daveylibra]

Hi, all, can't see a way to edit posts so here it is revised...

Notice  36 x 25 = 900, so a 25 unit win first.
Next win, looks like 1800, so a 50 unit win here.
First 20 spins, 1000 lost, 100/25 = 40.

So has he made 40 bets, starting with 2-shows? I don't think he was betting on 1-shows, if so he would have started at spin 1, also, 1+2+3+4.....+9 =45, so he would have spent his 40 bets by spin 9.

So I deduce he just puts nothing on 1-shows, 25 units on 2-shows, 50 on 3-shows, 75 on 4-shows etc.
Only thing is he says he only bets a few numbers. Maybe he has a 'window' of the last 37 spins. This would still give 12 or so numbers to bet on.

I'm sure you could analyse this better than me. What do you think?

[boyd30]

If you have a max gap between the repeaters it keeps down the numbers. But is there an advantage to bet more on numbers that hitting more?

[6th-sense]

Hi notty I only went from repeat 3 to 4 and only from your sheets...not gone further ...I was speculating just going for the 4th repeat...and only using the progression what’s going about..

And would only start the cycle of 37 spins as soon as the the 3rd repeat hit..then onto the other cycles after that through the progressions..

Stop when in plus.. not gone after a 5th as only going through your data...love that green sheet ..and like that you can get a 50 unit win in any of them betting unhit numbers like you do

[daveylibra]

Hi Boyd

Well, max gaps, more on higher repeaters... I would do some testing if I knew what is the best way to test ideas.
Is this rx roulette the best to use, or can we use something free?
I mean running lots of trials quickly, not 'fun money' roulette.

[boyd30]

Hi Daveylibra,
I have done some tests using RX. But I can only do it manually so it takes time. If you know you can write programs to make larger tests. However, last I tested was with betting on repeaters with max 8 gaps. Betting the repeaters up to 37 spins. This way you Keep down the repeaters. At most I was up to 7-8, but many times it was just 4-5 or less. I have not failed with this test, but spins have just been up to 150-200. I don't know how a progression would work best but Turbo mentioned a positive progression. With this testing I raised to two units when I was down 108 units. Stayed there until plus.Never had to bet with 3 units. Some other test went up and no need to bet with more than one unit. But I think some kind of progression is needed.

[Bigbroben]

Hell why not, I've been philosophing...  so all that follows is just ''IF'':

When do we know if a number is ''hot''?
                 Unfortunately after it has been.
       So we know it was hot.

When do we bet/increase bet on a hot number?
                unfortunately, after it has hit.
       We don't know if it will hit again.

***************
So I thought: is there a way to be ''always ready'' for a hot number when it hits?  Can we just think upside down?

First of all, what is a hot number? One that hits more often than every 37 spin.

What if:
a number hits.  We bet 36 units on it right after.  Next spin another one hits: 36u on it, and 35 on the first one .  What if we remove a unit every spin on the ones that have a bet on them, and reset to 36 units when hit?  So after 6 spins, one nr has 36, 1 has 35, one has 34...  33,32,31.

And then bang! 5th nr comes again, claiming its 36x 34u!  Then 3 spins later boom!!! A new repeater with 28 units on it!  And then next spin, the first repeater with 32 units on it... holy...

What if...

<End of dream>

Unhits get no bet.  1xers slowly fade out to cold.  Repeaters get hit anywhere between 36 and 1 unit.

Is this sustainable?
Put 36 units as soon as hit?  After  2 hits? 36, 24 or how many units?

Thinking.  This is why I was asking if there was a simulator with the shift+click to reduce units on a nr.  Quicker this way instead on deleting then rebetting accordingly.

What say you, LOTT researchers?

[Iain]

Hi Bigroben,

I wrote an Excel program to simulate this. The original idea, placing 1 unit on every number that hit and adding 1 unit on subsequent hits until in profit and then resetting. I set it to stop when 100 units was won or 500 units were lost. It seemed to generate profit quite well, but the sessions that didn't work so well were very long, several hundred spins. Your latest idea placing 36 units after a number hit and decreasing after every spin didn't work well.

It might be an idea to limit the number of spins or reset even when not in profit when the stakes are getting too high. What do you think?

[Bigbroben]

Hi Iain,

yes, probably better to use the decreasing method only with repeaters instead of all 1xers.  And probably better to reset at new high.  Can you test both ways: one is keep rolling the repeaters until fade out, the other is reseting at new high?

I don't know every Excel function yet, it would be worth a try to do what you did.  Do you have like one column per number?