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[Bigbroben]

I think this would be the worst case scenario:
a repeater at spin 9 (8 nrs) gets you to br 0, so no new high.  Then start adding units on new nrs. (2u x 9 nr, 3u x 10nr,..., 28u x 35 nrs) and no other repeater.  Down 10556 units.

So, one repeater at spin 9 then no repeater until the end.  This is unlikely, but you'd still be pissed off when there are only a few repeaters.  It is possible to reach 35 nrs without new br high in a few ways.

Still, I think you are better off starting indeed at spin 2 with 1nr.  45% repeaters come within spin 8, with profit, and 55% within spin 9, break-even.

This all makes sense.  It is not infaillible, but you seem to profit from it.

For sure we could improve this system in a way to make it even better, but I like it.

It is to be seen if online casinos will rig the system not to show many repeaters...
I was doing great with KTF then after a while you wouldn't believe how many repeaters came early in the spins...

Same with the Martingale-Alembert hybrid: after  few games, unbelievable how many red hitted when I betted on black!

P.S.: Looking for a trustworthy online casino at 1 cent or max 10 cents roulette tables, playable from Canada.  Anyone?  Tried casino.com but not so sure anymore...

[nottophammer]

I was doing great with KTF then after a while you wouldn't believe how many repeaters came early in the spins..

After 2 years, theres a lot of water gone under the bridge, but the non-hits in early spins 11-20 should have an even distribution of 5 non-hit, 5 repeats, that should be the norm, but more times out of 10 the distribution is 7; 2 more than the even 5.

So after numerous posts, showing the way the non-hit come on posted sheets, even showing countback, you should be watching and adjust the progression, if say spin 12 is 12th non-hit, The great man Winkel says by 13th spin should/could have 2 repeats, so you either keep to the +1/-1 as originally stated or now switch for a repeat.

As said a lot of water gone under the bridge, like Azim says practice, every game played should increase your knowledge of how non-hit can come, the starting 37 can come many ways, but the average to hit has not changed in 3 sets of data, the 1st 19 non-hit average to hit in 2 spins, so there bet twice, stop if no hit, or wait 2 spins and non-hit has missed the average, so now bet, but if you have waited whats the known max to you for this particular non-hit you are watching

How do we or I know that the average for spins 11-40 is 15 non-hit?

I'll show you in 4 days, Ready Tin soldiers

[Bigbroben]

Thanks ,Notto

I'm sure all these stats are good and sure also the way you are playing improved ever since you started.  Also sure KTF works more often than not.

The point was I had the strong feeling the results were tricked, there were too many games with 5 repeaters in the first 10 spins.  One game after the other.  I doubted of the integrity of the provider!  Maybe just me or bad luck...

This GUT system looks also great, if not better.

If you don't mind, I'll be happy to follow your comments on the KTF tread.

Thanks!

[nottophammer]

The point was I had the strong feeling the results were tricked, there were too many games with 5 repeaters in the first 10 spins.  One game after the other.  I doubted of the integrity of the provider!  Maybe just me or bad luck...

Ben
Look 5 repeats in 1st 10 spins, just once in 764 daily games, was the supplier MPR, anything and everything happens on there,

Just now 60 spins 1st 20 hardly a repeat, next 10 still repeats are scarce, now looking at these blocks of 10 spins, they are 9/10
so now i start and guess what the 1st block of 10 i'm in repeats 4 of the previous block of 10, the next 10 i'm in and repeats 3 of my 1st 10 spins, suddenly repeats everywhere, stop betting and just watch as #PLOP# is playing and repeats dry up.

Oh yeah a RFH on MPR, But still just shy of starting BR with some shrewd staking.

[Bigbroben]

Notto,!

''5 repeats in first 10 spins'' was a metaphore to say there were more than average  in the beginning.

  Do you sometimes wait for the 1st block of 10 spins to have 2 repeaters before to start betting on unhits?

In your above message, did you refer to a scoreboard from a previous discussion, like on March 12th?  I am not sure I understand what you are refering to, sonst.

What is RFH?  What is MPR?

[jekhb76]

Notto,!

''5 repeats in first 10 spins'' was a metaphore to say there were more than average  in the beginning.

  Do you sometimes wait for the 1st block of 10 spins to have 2 repeaters before to start betting on unhits?

In your above message, did you refer to a scoreboard from a previous discussion, like on March 12th?  I am not sure I understand what you are refering to, sonst.

What is RFH?  What is MPR?

RFH = Run From Hell
MPR = Multiplayer Roulette

[Bigbroben]

jhk,

I've thought of some amelioration.  You start at 1st spin.  I tested at 12.  Let's think of what makes sense.  I've tried a run where I'd just put a unit on the last nr, then the one before, and again, until running into one that's already betted on, that is, the first occurence of the repeater that hitted on last spin.
It is sort of a free-spins catchback.
First example (freespin.png):
On the right, nr.23 was the repeater that won.  i betted 23 and 17, since 17 was the only nr between the 2 23s.  look further on the left, as the spins went by, after 11 spins comes 17 again.  Who knows how longer it would have taken to hit a repeater otherwise.

Example 2 (freespin2.png)
24 came twice, winning me a coup.  Started betting with 24 only since it was a doublet.  24 again 5 spins later.  Won.  Then betted 24,2,35,4,3, since these are the numbers between the repeating 24.  Right away on next spin nr.4 hits again.  So these 5 nrs were some free-spins, if you will.  betted 1x 5u, instead of 1+2+3+4+5u.

Tried also to adapt to reality.  Casino around here do not allow for crazy progression.  Straight-up can get from 1-10$, or 2,50-25$.
Look at the long downturn in the game below.  It started at spin 94 with 3nrs.  Went up to 12nrs without repeater, then 2 repeaters. No new high.  Continued with 2 units on each but stayed at 2, instead of going 3,4,5,6u every spin.  Next repeater was at 21 nrs!!  It would have gotten me so deep down there, sure would have rebound, but still. ( I know me: heart beats like crazy even when playing with pennies...)
So, after the 21nrs, 3 hits at 2units, not enough to get to new high.  It actually took a very long time, got to 31 nrs total but only 8 units on each.  Then got this repeater strike at 31 nrs, 11 times.

The point is: I would not have busted the table maximum.  Also, max loss is much lower, d.h. lower br needed.  I mean, how often do you get only  2 repeaters in 21 spins?  Sure, it happens.  The goal is not to get too deep in when the shit hits the fan.

To be continued... and thought over.

[Bigbroben]

U-shaped recovery, better than downward parabolic and rebound, my opinion.

[Bigbroben]

Another U-shaped recovery, up to 31 nrs, 9units.
Max downturn was at -520units.  Took 55 spins.

[Bigbroben]

Ok,
another variation in my never-ending search for a ''ByeBye Boss'' solution.

Flatbet in nrs from the last spins  up to last repeater, and 2u on 4 last repeaters.

Good start, to be continued...

[nottophammer]

BBB
Thats why its called Keep The Faith  KTF or as wanker over GF calls it KFC


see the checkpoint  box 9+15= 24 and spins 11-40; 30 spins gave 15 non-hit and yes 15 repeats. It made the +50 

[Bigbroben]

Ok,
another variation in my never-ending search for a ''ByeBye Boss'' solution.

Flatbet in nrs from the last spins  up to last repeater, and 2u on 4 last repeaters.

Good start, to be continued...

Failed, dump.

Now, I can't remember how I did it, was a few days ago, but is was quite fine.  I'll try to find again.

[jekhb76]

One thing i learned in the past is that we need to forget about the 0x that becoming 1x if we play repeaters. There are too many Time where we need to bet More then 10# in a row, so that's a No go.